Episode 14 – NCAP or No Cap: Necessary Discipline or Digital

In this episode, the hosts dive into the hot debate over Metro Manila’s No Contact Apprehension Program (NCAP).

Is it really making our roads safer, or is it just slapping drivers with unfair fines while the bigger problems—like corruption and lack of discipline—go unchecked?

They break down the good, the bad, and the messy side of NCAP, and compare how other cities manage to keep traffic in line. Buckle up for a thought-provoking ride!

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Philippe: Gab what’s her topic of the day?

Gab: So the most controversial topic as of this week, as of like three days ago: the NCAP, the No Contact Apprehension Program.

Philippe: Big, big, big, big topic. Okay, so affected. Everyone here. I don’t know. So NCAP is where? Metro Manila only? Yeah, yeah, this. Metro Manila only, may specific style.

From what I heard in the news, okay, Metro Manila, Quezon City, Danzas, Parañaque and all that. Pero may specific roads like EDSA. All NCAP, yes.

Gab: Sorry, it’s Manila, Quezon City, Valenzuela, Parañaque and Muntinlupa.

Philippe: Those specific cities.

Gab: Okay. So for example, Alabang, hindi pa lang NCAP. Not yet, I think. Those are the ones. Targeted pa lang. So now. Targeted pa lang.

Philippe: Ang tanong . Not only NCAP for a while, or… We’re going to the RO and the NCAP. But let’s talk about it anyway. So, up north, taga-Bulacan. Pa lang and… Yes.

Sure. Okay. Okay.

Sir McClaine: So… So… Although sa Manila, pag hindi ka sanay, thats the, yun yung fear, magugulat ka nalang pag dating mo sa LTO may violation. Parang may report na ganyan eh, sir punta muna kayo sa Manila city hall. Settle niyo muna yung – parang merong report na ganyan yung ano eh kay Col. Musita, yung one customer or one rider nung pagdating niya sa LTO, boss punta muna kayo dito. Bayaran mo muna yung 90,000 pesos – ganon katindi yung violation kasi parang lagi nag, nasa Manila. So every now and then, ang problema, ang pinopoint out nila is si LTO, hindi ninonotify yung rider na meron na palang violation.

Eto ang problema. kasi if hindi naman sa kanya yungsasakyan, lets say pano kung nag ddrive lang siya, hinid sa kanya yung sasakyan, nag ddrive lang siya – hindi sa kanya nakapangalan yun. So hindi niya alam – basta siya drive lang siya ng drive. So yun yung nakakatakot ngayon so yun yung policy na yan kasi nga parang pwedeng isipin nung driver ah safe ako kasi hindi naman sakin nakapangalan.

Philippe: Okay. Okay. We are… Oh, we’re… Off the curve. Because every now and then, there is a violation.

So, every now and then, there is a violation. And I have a problem, I have to point out, that the LTO, the issuing unit, notifies the human rider that they are not in violation. And I have a problem because, what if the unit is not in violation, let’s say when the driver was driving, he said they had to go to the driver to get the driver, and the driver had to go to the driver to get the driver, and they were there, and they were going to the driver…

Yes, that’s why. Was that 10 days, 20 days, or 30 days from…?

So this is bad for, you know, secondhand, the unit and the building, the transfer. Bad.

Yes. Right. And bad for so many cases. For the typical rider and driver—means, for example, when you see it, there’s a lot of human signs, human conflicting signs.

So for example, I think this is along Commonwealth, I think southbound. You go into Circle from let’s say galing kang Fairview papuntang Circle. Yes. There’s some sections that you can say, yung motorcycle lane. Makikita mo sa motorcycle lane, mawawala siya. Next thing you know maliit na motorcycle lagn siya, nasa ibang lane na siya.

That is a problem. I think. Napuputol siya somewhere around tandang sora. Kasi doon parang bagong aspalto bagong whatever, parang tapos paglagpas doon, ibang lane na naman. Parang HUH nakakalito diba.

So yan yung nirereklamo ng ibang rider. Kasi na sige kamote lang sila.

They can’t maneuver around. They can’t maneuver around.

Eh ngayon, it just proves na pag may nakabantay – si kuya – ngayon traffic ngayon sa motorcycle lane sumusunod na sila.

In the first place, if we were only disciplined enough… It just proves that if we were only disciplined enough… It just proves that if we were disciplined enough… If we were only disciplined enough… Then we would be disciplined enough. So I think it’s about discipline. And if people would practice discipline lang, they would say, “If we were disciplined enough, there would be traffic rules.”

It’s called NCAP. Yes. Start to say, “Anjan na, we can’t do anything about it,” but are you for NCAP or not?

SIr McClaine: 50-50.

Philippe: Let’s not go 50-50. Okay.

SIr McClaine: Yes or no?

Philippe: Why don’t you yes-per-me-but? Yes or no? Simple. Black and white.

SIr McClaine: Okay, for me, no.

Philippe: Ako Yes. You know why? It’s safer. Oh okay. Wrong left turn, right turn, stoplight. I’m for, to be honest. Because it’s safer. Not because it’s more disciplined If you think about it, it’s safer. Pag may NCAP, the traffic is manageable. Right? It’s manageable. Because under… hindi ka hinuli ng MMDA. t’s not bad. Hindi ka—yes. At least all the cameras, all the CCTVs. Mas makikita. I don’t know. For example, it’s a bus lane. It’s a bus lane.

Yes. Yes. You see, in Penalty-na, it’s already ₱5,000 to ₱20,000. Right. Eh pag may NCAP – nahuli na sila, pag alis nila ng bus lane, nahuli na sila. So I think for me, for the greater good and for the progress—NCAP all the way. So, let’s do an argument.

SIr McClaine: Okay sana pero dapat inayos muna nila dapat yung magiging issue doon sa pag implement nila, lalo na sa riding ano. Its not because hindi ako boto, hindi ako kamote. Pero kasi, hindi pwedeng sabihin nila, ah hindi boto yan kasi kamote rider. Hindi. Kaya sabi ko kanina, yes, pero may but.

So for the sake ng maisabi ko yung side ko, if aayusin nila yung sistema – pwede ako pumanig for NCAP. Pero since andaming questionable, with regard tothe fact na to lessen the, work smart, work hard. Pwede mo namang maayos. Which is yung NCAp makakatulong. Kaya lang ako nag no sa NCAP – kasi marami pang butas.

But if it gets fixed. Im for NCAP. I think yesterday, meron congresista na someone is filing a TRO for at leats 6 months para mapolish muna yung mga dapat.

Feel ko lang yung bluster ng amnesty regarding ownership. That’s good news.

Yeah, very recently. Yeah. You gotta—don’t you know what I mean—and among it, gonna…

You know, kwento. May isa, dapat ₱90,000, hindi…

Hindi sila na-inform kasi nga hindi a kanila nakapangalan yung sasakyan o motor. Pero kung dahil dito sa amnesty na gagawin ng LTO – baka maipapalaam sa mga rider yung mga sasakyan nila. Maiinform sila.

So I think, I’m not sure that I can use a central database…na nakikitang MMDA or LTO

I think—ayaw nila i-share. Ayaw nila mag bigayan. Kasi kung tutuusin, pag na-NCAP ka, ayaw nilang pag nag validate. Kung merong central database. Pag nahuli ka, iraradyo nila agad yan. Kung tutuusin hindi naman talaga mag tatagal ng 5 minutes.

Kung meorn lang talagang database yung overnment natin na talgang i-implemement, regarding sa NCAP.
Lately nag cause talaga ng traffic. Katulad nung sa Ambulansya.

Pag dinisregard mo yung traffic sign – 1000 pesos. Pero pag di mo pinagbigyan yung ambulansya, police, or any emergency vehicle – 150pesos.

Kaya hindi sila nag momove kahit sinisigawan na sila kasi hello, 1000 vs 150, doon na ako sa 150.

Philippe: Pero may patay na tao.

SIr McClaine: Kanino may ffall yung sisi. KAsalanan ba nung driver sa daan? Hindin kasi gusto lang niya sumunod sa batas.

Philippe: I had a similar dilemma the other day. Like, starting in NCAP, this is EDSA kami, around near SM, my U-turn. My U-turn was in the bus lane, but I was in the MMDA zone, so I had to go there, right? Stop.

Nako baka ano to, NCAP – pag pinag-go kami sa cctv camera, siyempre paano natin icocontest. Edi siyempre go na diba? Feeling ko hindin kita yung MMDA. So pina-go nalang kami kasi siyempre wala namang bus. Just to ease the traffic.

But I was like, “No! CCTV or some cameras!” and then I had to go there.

And I was like, “No, no, I really want to go here.” I walked through the bus lane, and I was like, “Okay, no, no, I don’t want to go there. Pero siyempre hassle kahit i-contest mo online.

For me I think ther will never be a good time for NCAP kasi we there will always be butas.

NCAP is a enforement, on the riders and drivers all around. NCAP is the result of no discipline. And so it still falls down on us kasi kugn may disiplina tayo – this would never happen inthe first place. Kung maging disiplina nalang tayo kung may NCAP man o wala – there gonna ease that.

Kailangan mo pa ba ng NCAP kung may. sumusunod? FOr example pedestrian, kahit 4 wheels karamhina humihinto sila.

But I think the benefits weigh more than the cons of this NCAP. So maybe now, meron na tayong discipline. Right. Sana meron.

I know everyone would follow the rules.Which I don’t think matatanggal siya anytime soon. Unless may TRO. But eventually, as a country… Okay, forget ibang bansa… BAKIT SA SUBC So what’s the difference? But why don’t we apply it? It’s hard to apply it in a big city. Right? How much work we’re going to apply to the whole Metro? So they should… How about advice? They should study it more. What they do in Subic and then apply it. What are they doing? Do you guys have any idea? I think Subic and BGC…You want to see BGC? And then apply it to BGC… Oh, I love it now. Why don’t we look at BGC and why don’t we apply it in other cities? Diba? Wala. Maybe mas maayos kasi dun, compared to EDSA or something.

So…

Sir McClaine: Sabayan mo pa ng enforcer na…

Philippe: We don’t have the manpower. Because that’s one of the reasons. Wala na rin kasing MMDA bawas tulog. No, yeah. Wala. We don’t have enough MMDA enforcers. So, paano magwo-work out? And I get up and see… Senator na si… ano? Si Busita? Senator na nga, no? Siya, right? I hope he does something for the traffic and the riders and all that. Sana. Sana. Because he’s now in the Senate, so he could… As a congressman, he did very well. Sana he could do even more as a senator, diba, in terms of traffic. But you know what? It starts within us, you know. Kahit na nati’s even—for example, you may bike lanes… Like, aah, hindi natin pinapansin.

Always disregarding it. Araw-araw, di ba? Sisingit ka pa rin.Araw-araw, walang pake.Pati U-turn ko…Motor…Motor, bawal. But anyway, anything else we want to add to NCAP?

Sir McClaine: Ahm siguro ako ngayon sa NCAP You should have a dashcam. Yes. Interesting. That’s an interesting one. Kasi katulad ng traffic enforcer, pinapa-go ka, pero if feeling mo na wala siya sa camera and feeling mo wala sila sa camera, kasi yamn yung tendency na kabisado nila yung area, o kung nasaan yung blindspot. Pwede strategy yan eh. Lalo na if may NCAP, hindi sila maka-quota.

Philippe: This is a different topic now. Yes. It’s corruption, man..

Sir McClaine: Pero I’m not going to that topic now. Para makatulong lang o sa pag-contest mo doon sa huli sayo, ito na yung magiging tulong – yung dashcam.

Philippe: Sino gusto mag-plug ng dashcam sponsor hehe. Ano yung magagandang dashcam ngayon?

Gab:I think those are above ₱4,000. We will add a little bit more.

Philippe: I’m curious. May dashcam para sa motor?

Gab: Yes, front and back. Yeah, I think for the cost of ₱2,000, may options na either body cam or… So helmet na mismo. And then they also have the back camera. So helmets also kinakapitan sa helmet. Yeah, but not some of them. Meron. Meron some of them. Meron sa helmet tapos meron pa silang newer model—Apple CarPlay, Waze display, tapos meron… Apple CarPlay.

Look at him, man. You can make a prize on that.

Philippe: Baka pang bigbike na ata yun.

Gab: No, you can also put ; in, NWOW oops N-Max

Philippe: I think that works. I think it works.

Sir McClaine: Uy, meron sa newer model. May back camera na sila.

Philippe: Tapos pag naka-car setup ka na, makikita…Uy, kasi sa newer model, tapos yung mga delivery e-bike…

Okay, so no for NCAP, yes for NCAP.

Good, good, good, good.

Makikita mo talaga sino mga kumontra dito.

Joke lang, joke lang.

Nino man, true na rider. E-bike.

E-bike. Mabilis makakuha ng ticket.