Philippe: What’s your take on our nation’s preparedness? Let’s say in Luzon on Metro Manila.
Jazmine: Paghanda ka, di ka naman magpa-panic eh. Panic only happens when you’re not ready.
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Jazmine: Oh my God, paano pag nangyari ito sa Pilipinas? Are we ready? Flood control nga lang, di mo magawan ng paraan. If we could have just harnessed yung power of AI at its fullest potential, we could have done better.
Philippe: Jaz, ito 10 billion. How can you help the nation with your expertise?
Jazmine: Well, first of all, number one is…
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Philippe: What’s your take on our nation’s preparedness? Let’s say in Luzon, Metro Manila. What do you guys do?
Jazmine: Kasi technically me, I’ve been very busy lately and probably itong lindol na to, I was actually asking myself, ano yung sanang naitulong ko bilang AI person? Ano sanang yung natulong ko? What could I have done better? Right? Kasi with the… Yung kung sana…
Si Phil Vox, siya ang nag-analyze, right? Siya ang nag-analyze ng mga data. Like, ah, ito. Yung mga graphs na siyempre di ko gets. Right? Siyempre di ko gets yung data. But AI could have helped way faster with that. If we are well-versed with artificial intelligence and if we have a trained AI to actually read the data, we could have prevented it.
Jazmine: Kaso probably, sa sobrang lakas, hindi mo naman kasi mape-prevent yung pag-uho ng buildings. Kasi yung mga buildings na yun, ginawa pa nung 1980s. Right? But probably, if we could have just harnessed yung power of AI at its fullest potential, like what they do in Japan and in the Philippines, baka, ano eh, baka nailikas natin yung mga tao, walang nasaktan.
We could have done better, I guess, probably as the leaders of this country. Kasi may mga leaders eh, like us. Like, we do content. Right? We educate people in our own ways. Na ako talagang napa-ask ako. Kasi ako mismo, hindi ko alam kung anong gagawin. Especially now, sabi ko, ah, may go-bag.
Philippe: Ngayon lang may go-bag.
Jazmine: Ang dami nagtatanong sa akin, san mo nakuha yan? Sabi ko, wala kami sa tagig eh. Kasi I live in Tagig eh. Wala kami yan eh. Ay, wala kayo sa mayor namin.
May ganun ba naman, Philippe.Sabi ko, okay, instead of really preparing, being prepared as yourself, yung mga tao ngayon, parang kung porke may go-bag sila, in sila. When hindi nila alam, dapat alam nila why they have that.
Philippe: Naging social flex na.
Jazmine: Promise. Nakikita ko sa TikTok eh, wala kayo sa mayor namin. Hindi siya birong topic. Kasi the last time I was so worried about isang malakas na lindol was in Japan.
Yung tipong nag-tsunami after. Naalala mo yan? Sa US. Yun yung mga time na, oh my God, paano pag nangyari ito sa Pilipinas? Are we ready? Flood control nga lang, hindi mo magawa ng paraan. Tsunami pa?
Philippe: Right? Okay, new source. Magnitude 4.7 mula sa Tarlac City. October 16. That was two days ago. Palapit ang palapit ang Metro Manila. Noon it was Zambales, now it’s in Tarlac City. Are you within the fault line?
Jazmine: Literal ako nandoon.
Philippe: Oh gosh.
Jazmine: Taguig
Philippe: mag impake ka na
Jazmine: So parang, hindi ko, well technically, baka mayroong nakaka-relate sa kanila. Hindi ko alam ang gagawin ko. Ano ba, lilipat ba muna ako for a month ng Airbnb? Mataas din yan. Hindi ko alam pupunta ba ang probinsya.
Philippe: Pero check mo din yung, di ba Batangas ka? I think it goes all the way to, ano pa, Alabang. I’m not sure if it goes all the way to Batangas
Jazmine: Naka-tira ako sa Tagig. Hindi na ako umuwi sa province namin. So, siyempre I’m doing all of the work needs to be done. Kasi artificial intelligence won’t wait for us humans. So, we’re trying to keep up with it.
I’m trying to keep up with the community with the basic AI tools that they need to learn. But, regarding dito sa Lindol, Alam mo, binawa ko na lang. Kasi, hindi na ako makapagbasa ng social media.
Jazmine: Hindi na ako makapagbasa ng ganyan. Like, yung mga binabasa mo. I made an AI agent that actually tells me the news. Na tine-text ako sa Telegram
Philippe: Now, that’s how you can help. How? What are those texts? NDRMs? Sorry. Too many letters. Ano yung nag-tetext sa atin? Yung umiingay yung telepona natin?
Jazmine: NDRMs. But, ang dami.
Philippe: Exactly. Parang it’s a mouthful. Council, Association, Incorporation, Corporate, whatever.
Jazmine: Bakit? Sobrang habang. NDRMs. Yung nagbibigay sa akin ng heart attack sa middle of the night.
Philippe: Tapos yun pala, hindi naman sa lugar mo.
Jazmine: Nabato ko yung telepono ko. Sobrang lakas talaga.
Philippe: That’s how you can help. Create an app. Use AI. Create an app that we get the latest updates. Kasi, for example, it’s just focused on, let’s say, SOS or emergency.
So, for example, instead of, alam mo naman, Pinoy, pag lumindol, video muna. Pag may sunog video. Pag may baha, video. Create an app. Use AI. Create an app for the Filipino citizens. Halimbawa, ito. I couldn’t have got this information if he didn’t message it to me. Oh, talaga? Wala din sa balita ito.
Jazmine: Oh, talaga? Ako, di ko alam eh. Ngayong malam na laman eh.
Mclaine: Ah, something. Eh, I can do that in 10 minutes.
Jazmine: A scraper. A new scraper.
Philippe: The thing is, nobody’s…
Jazmine: Ako mismo, merong ganun.
Philippe: Duplicate it. Give it to us. Give it to the people. That’s how you could help the nation.
Jazmine: That’s a good idea. I’ll do it later.
Philippe: And plus, you know what? Kasi, there’s no videos. Isipin mo yung go-back. Yung mga preppers of…We have… There are groups. Yung mga preppers ng Pinas, ganun.
So, sila yung mga ready for o anong mayayari kung may disaster or kung may earthquake or kung may civil unrest. Di ba? Create an app where, for example, the typical mother, the father, or the lolo and lola. Parang, anong gagawin natin? Anong naman yung go-back? Wala naman tayo pabalik yung mayor namin.
Jazmine: Checklist, no?
Philippe: Create that AI and then it’s gonna be like one app. Di ba? That helps the nation. Like an SOS app. Pag pinundot mo yung app, ando na lahat. Di ba? O anong naman yung go-back? Anong mga esensya? So, ito yung… Our government is supposed to be proactive enough, but they’re not.
Jazmine: Yeah, we can do that. It’s easy with AI now. AI can code that in 30 minutes.
Philippe: If you had the funds of DPWH, yung mga ninakaw, mga 36 billion, how would you do it?
Jazmine: 36 billion ba?
Philippe: 36 billion, yeah
Jazmine: Ang laki naman.
Philippe: 30 billion.
Jazmine: Grabe naman Discaya
Philippe: More than. And those are the only ones na alam nila. You know? So, okay. Let’s say, okay, with 10 billion. Okay. Jaz, ito 10 billion. How can you help the nation with your expertise? See?
Jazmine: Well, first of all, number one kasi, number one is educating them. I believe education is one of the first steps. Kasi kapag binigyan natin ng mga tools yan, yung web app na sinasabi mong gawin ko, if they don’t even know how to, you know, operate it or kung saan pupunta, ang alam lang nila mag-swipe, hindi marunong mag-type ng URL, medyo hindi tayo magsasucceed. Hindi sasukses. Right? So, I strongly believe in education. So, if you would give me the funds as the President of the Philippines, charot!
Philippe: Madam President, how would you use it?
Jazmine: So, just in case, just in case, first of all, I’m going to invest for the infrastructure of education in the Philippines. And for us to, kasi I have a dream eh. My dream is to live in this world seeing a first world Philippines. So, for me to do that is first of all, invest in the education.
Why? Ask me why? Because if our, if our people are educated, they will vote the right person. Because they will research. Hindi kung parang binigay sila ng dalawang libu at isang sako ng bigas, yun ang iboboto mo. True or true?
Philippe: That’s a reality.
Jazmine: So, if your, if your people are educated, and they, so they will have that type of awareness where, ano yan? Ripple effect yan eh. And it all boils down to the education. Sa community, sa how they learn things. So, first of all, yun yun. Second is, I would like to build schools that actually help you to build things.
Not just learn algebra, and ako hindi ko na maalala yung last time na ginamit ko yung A squared plus B squared equals C squared. Hindi ko na maalala talaga. But, with the Philippines kasi, what we need is, you know, yung lakas na loob.
Jazmine: Kasi remember ah, remember, Phillippe, we were conquered by the Spaniards for 333 years. That gave us the inferiority complex kapag ibang lahe. Like, dapat ang boss natin is Chinese. Dapat ang boss natin is ibang lahe.
That is actually the inferiority complex that’s still with us up to this moment na kailangan natin mag-antay ng oportunidad sa gobyerno before tayo kuminos. So, actually, education. Education, and second, yun, sabi ko sayo, infrastructures to help them build things.
Jazmine: And of course, third is, ano ba yung kailangan ng mga tao? Kasi, we have been building infrastructures, bridge. That’s nice. But, ang daming nagugutom. We are a third-world country. Sabi ko nga, diba, Filipinos have first-world talents. But, in a third-world country, why don’t we use those talents?
Ang lalakas ng loob natin na kumiboard warrior sa TikTok, sa Facebook, ba’t hindi natin gamitin yung lalakas ng loob na yun to actually make something for ourselves to help the nation build itself? Because, if you build your own economy, everything follows.
Jazmine: Everything follows. Yung mga kapitbahay mo maiinggit sila dahil ang Pilipino inggitero talaga yan. Eh, di mag-start ka sa sarili mo, the man in the mirror. How about you start with yourself, you build your own economy, you build your own business?
Kahit 20,000 per month yan, at least you have your own economy and it will scale up. You can’t do that without education. Hindi ko sinasabi yung makatapos ka ng high school, makatapos ka ng college. No. What I’m saying is education na knowing what’s right and what’s wrong and what works for you.
Jazmine: Na, knowing na yung simpleng desisyon mo, it will affect your barangay. Yung sarili mo, napakasimple lang, yung magtapon ka ng candy wrapper. Napakasimple, but it’s a habit. E di, pag ako ah, nangyari to ah, Philip ah, hindi ko naman, hindi mo naman ako nagmamalinis, may nakita ko nagtapon.
Busy, busy ako. Alam mo ba yung hawa ko, unknowingly ah, natapon ko rin. So, hive mind, alam mo no, na-realize ko, pinulot ko, nasabi ko, oh my God. So, ibig sabihin, I am my own environment. So, for us to change that, if we start with education, if I’m going to be, for example, President of the Philippines, yung mga gano’ng kaniliit, kasama yun, hindi lang knowledge to sa algebra at knowledge sa chemistry.
Jazmine: I don’t need you to memorize the periodic table of elements. What I need you to understand is the collective minds that we have, that you are your own neighbor. Apektado yung barangay mo sa actions mo. Na, self-development, first of all.
Aside from education, it’s also self-development. What’s out there? Ang Pilipino kasi, um, ang ginagawa nila, pupunta sila ng ibang bansa, hindi para mamasyal or matuto, nandun sila para makipagmanilbihan bilang OFW. OFW is a word na nasa diksyonary.
Jazmine: Keep knowing na nila. Kasi, why? Sa sobrang galing ng Pilipino, hinahira nila tayo to build their businesses. Hinahire nila tayo to handle their complaints. Hinahire nila tayo to handle their social media. Kaya, ang daming VA, Dito sila umaano.
Dito sila pumupunta. Why? Kasi ang baba ng tingin natin sa sarili natin for us to charge that way. I want that to change. And it starts with education. Yun. So far.
Philippe: Oh, you have 5 billion left. Tell us how you could help with 5 billion for natural disasters. Kasi, that is, that we cannot, you can never know when it comes.
Jazmine: We can have like a national dashboard.
Philippe: That should be it
Jazmine:Right? Like a national dashboard na you can check anytime you want. Na nandun yung hindi para pakutin ka. Inform ka. But of course, you’re just, you know, again, without education din lang gets yan. Even the ordinary people.
But, a national dashboard for disaster can be something very useful. Kasi, you can see, like, kailangan mo pa ba ng news to find out na may, na merong lindol sa tarla. But if you can get that directly sa isang dashboard from the fieldbooks na may nangyaring ganito, you’ll know.
Jazmine: Na, of course, also, educating them not to panic. Kasi, pag handa ka, di ka naman magpa-panic eh. Panic only happens when you’re not ready. Yun, ang nangyayari sa atin. Laging hindi ready. No wonder nagpa-panic ka. Right? And the Philippine government is not also preparing us for that. So, pag nagpa-panic, of course, sino iblame. Ang nangyayari, turuan. Nagtuturoan na. Ikaw kasi eh, ikaw kasi eh.
Philippe: When… Dapat nasa app yan. If it’s a national, sabihin na, like, bulletin board, di ba?
Jazmine: Something like that.
Philippe: At least, what’s happening on the whole nation. Or let’s say, meron tayong code red. O dapat everyone handa. Affected lahat.
Jazmine: No need for credit. Kailangan pa ba lagyan ng mukha mo? Like, for example, ako. Ginawa ako. Hindi mo na kailangan lagyan ng mukha mo dahil kakandidato ka next year.
Although, hindi ko naman sinasabing huwag niyong gawin mga nakangandidato. But, it’s a vanity metric na that defeats the purpose. We’re helping the Filipino people. Like, ito. We can do this ng…
Jazmine: AI can do this ng hindi kailangan ng government funds. I can actually see it happening right now and how it’s gonna be made. It’s just simple. But, it’s workable if you know how to use AI.
Philippe: For example, ito. 4.7 magnitude na din doon sa Tarlac City.
Jazmine: Kasi may kita ni AI yung news na yan. Then, lalagay niya lang doon na, uy, may nangyaring ganito.
Philippe: Imagine if we had that on our iOS apps and Android, diba? Nag-notify lang siya. Everyone’s informed. Right? Everyone’s informed na palapit na palapit. So, get ready.
Jazmine: Push notification lang, no?
Philippe: Exactly.Hindi yung yung alarm. Akala mo, Kulang lang yung…
Jazmine: Matapon mo yung telepon mo. Eh, eh, eh.
Philippe: Well, NDRMMC, na? NDRRMC.NDRRMC Corporation Association Incorporated dot gov dot ph dot whatever.
Jazmine: Madami nga nagsasabi. Diba? Ano ba yan? Wala na sa akin nagchat. Yung NDR, yung, yun na lang namamansin sa akin.
Philippe: And the problem is, delayed pa.Nauna pa yung, Nauna pa yung Google Alerts. Right? Google Alerts, nauna pa sila.
Jazmine: Medyo kasi heartbroken ako sa system natin sa Pilipinas. Kaya medyo parang hindi ko namasyado, you know, um, napapansin. Parang I just went into my own lane. But somehow, that is the most cowardly thing anybody could do.
Right? At least aminado ako. Yes. It’s not a funny joke though, but, um, probably marami makakarelate sa akin sa podcast na to. Marami na lang na parang nadala na lang and then hindi na lang pinansin. But technically, we have to remember na we are our own, diba?
Jazmine: We are part of this country. And, what you’re fighting for, you’re actually fighting also for your neighbor. Halimbawa, yung sa Bilyon, na may kapitbahay ako dati, naalala ko, hindi siya ganun ka well-off. Pumipila pa siya sa PCSO for her cancer treatment. And naalala ko noon, hindi siya nabigyan.
Nakalimutan ko na, medyo blurred na, but, those stories will actually, uh, hurt you, lalo na kapag hindi mo pinansin. Actually, did you know, Philip, that it was my dream as a kid to become the president of the Philippines?
Philippe: It’s never too late.
Jazmine: But, seeing what they’re doing, nawala na. Ayoko na. Kasi parang, ang nangyayari kasi kapag, uh, nandun ka na, marami nagsasabi, ah, madumi ang gobyerno, ganyan. Ang akin lang, bakit laging madumi?
Philippe: It’s the people.
Jazmine: Bakit laging madumi? Bakit wala akong narinig na, alam mo yun, may gagawing maganda, pero sa tao, lagi nalang, ah, kasi ganyan yan. Lagi nalang may negative. How I wish that I will live in a, in a place wherein ang Pilipinas is.
Philippe: In a perfect world, there will be people who would say, he was the best president. Or was, or is, or will be. Pero once nakuupo sila, it always, they always switch sides.
Jazmine: Yeah, I wanted to know why, but I’d rather not. Kasi, um, although I’m sure maraming katulad ko.
Philippe: It’s, Jaz, it’s the people. The people, if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.
Jazmine: I, I agree.
Philippe: There’s nothing in between. Who voted for the presidents? Who voted for the senators? Who voted for the congressmen? The mayors. It’s the people.
Jazmine: I agree.
Philippe: Isang congressman, sumayaw lang ng budots, panalo na. Right?
Jazmine: Dancer palang hinahanap natin.
Philippe: Dancer lang, right? Although, the people were a little smarter in last election, na sumayaw ulit, hindi siya nanalo.
Jazmine: Natuwa ako don, actually.Mga medyo, mga two percent ko, na dagdag sa heart ko.
Philippe: Yung mga celebrity status, at yung mga influencer status, hindi sila nanalo. Sino yung ano? Tulfo na hindi nanalo? Ben Tulfo.
Jazmine: Erwin?
Philippe: Ben Tulfo. Hindi siya nanalo. Erwin won. Si Ben Tulfo hindi nanalo. He was running for senate. Senator, right? Senator. Hindi siya nanalo. Celebrity, influencer status, it did budge. It means we’re getting smarter.
The problem is, yung mga masamang politicians are also getting smarter as well. Because they know what the people want. And the problem, like you said, dalawang libo, isang sahong bigas, yun yung inaasaan nila. Someone was telling me a solution on, you know how, is that four Ps? You know the four Ps?
Jazmine: Four Ps?
Philippe: What’s the four Ps? Sorry, I can’t remember. Too many letters kasi.
Jazmine: Hindi ko alam, actually.
Philippe: Pantawid Pamilyang Pilipino Program.
Jazmine: Saan yun? I’ve heard about that.
Philippe: Do you know that in DSWD, nationwide, is that every week? Every week, right? Every week, pipila yung mga tao hinihingi ng tulog. At that’s a program. That’s a program na they give assistance to those in need. Number one, senior citizen, single parent, PWD.
And then, yung mga family members, yung masa, na kailangan ng tulog. And every week, pipila sila sa DSWD. The problem is, madami dun sa kanila, hindi nakalista dun sa record nila. And plus yung mga, for example, yung pera na kukuha nila, nakapunta sa iba. Sa alak, sa drugs, sa ibang bagay, sa sugal.
Philippe: And I’m not saying everyone, pero may mga, ang dami nakalista dun na kamag-anak ng ganitong gobyerno, nakatrabaho niya dito. Tapos yung iba, hindi nabibigay. For example, PWD. Like your story, madami PWD, hindi nabigyan kasi naubusan daw.
Hindi sila nakalista. At yung nakakuha, ibang, wala sa listahan, yung nakakuha, kinamit pang sugal, pang alak, pang drugs. You know how painful that is to hear? Tapos yung isa naka wheelchair, hindi siya nakakuha. Malaki din yung nakakuha nila. The thing is, nobody can backtrack that. Why? Manual eh, pera eh. Di ba?
Jazmine: Kaya nga, there’s technology. Blockchain.
Philippe: There’s a lot of ghost beneficiaries. Ghost beneficiaries, for example, mga listahan ng PWD, meron tayong isang daan dito, pero yung sampu dyan, ghost. So meaning, either nabigyan ng iba or binunsa nila. And it’s happening. With AI, that could never happen.
With blockchain, that could never happen. There’s always the trap behind. Yan ang, that’s the sad case. I wasn’t aware with 4Ps in the past but, kasi we used to live near Batasan and every, every like, Friday, I’m not sure, I can’t remember, every time I go out there sa gate namin, sa bubutang hapon ng pila dito, anong meron dito?
Philippe: Yeah, 4Ps. You have no idea. 3AM, matinding araw, nandun na sila. Dun silang tulog, just to wait for assistance. That’s how sad it was. And, technology can help improve this because, ba’t kailan pa pumila yung mga senior citizen sa init pa lang? Mahimatay na sila. Do it electronically. May Gcash, may Maya, may kung ano-ano, e-wallets.
Jazmine: I agree.
Philippe:Eh di, ano ba yung, what’s our app? EGov app, right? Our EGov app, if we travel out, we have to register. If you use our EGov app, everyone has a national ID na eh. Kahit bata, pwede namang mag-apply.
Tapos EGov app, may disbursement din, right? So EGov right now, ganah, you can see your government benefits, your contributions, nakikita mo. Why not put, since LandBack is a government bank, Eh di, padalan niyo doon sa account ng tao.
Jazmine: I agree.
Philippe: Use technology. O sino yung mga ghost dito?
Jazmine: Ba’t ang tanong ko diyan, Phillip, is why aren’t they doing it?
Philippe: Yun nga, kasi there’s kickbacks. There’s kickbacks. There’s ghost beneficiaries. That’s why they don’t want to improve our technology, especially in the sectors of DPWH, BIR, Customs, anyway, PCSO, all four agencies. It has to be manual.
Without manual, you can’t track, I mean, without technology, you can’t track the boxes of money. There’s one who recommended an idea, very, very crazy idea, but it should work.
Philippe: Cryptocurrency. We should build our own cryptocurrency for our, not to replace our Philippine Peso, but to have, look at the USA. They have their own version of their crypto, right?
Jazmine: USDT.
Philippe: Exactly. Why not create ours? Create ours. That could be used for government and for the funds. Diba? And that could be converted to PHP and vice versa.
Jazmine: I’m not sure the Philippines is open for cryptocurrency. Ngayon lang ata. But back then.
Philippe: But it should. Dapat.
Jazmine: Yeah, dapat.
Philippe: It’ll be cleaner. It’ll be cleaner, number one.
Jazmine: Which some don’t like.
Philippe: The ones there.
Jazmine: Which ayaw nila nyan, yung cleaner. Ayaw nila na.
Philippe: Look at why all transactions are still cash. Because you move that bank to bank, may paper trail. Diba? And this is without blockchain pa. How much more if it was blockchain? After even using it, you’re going to see the trail from how it was used.
That’s why takot sila. That’s why these old politicians want cash transactions. Deliver the boxes, the vans, the boxes of cash. Diba? But, even with the technology. Napapanood naman natin sa movies, even if we’re using crypto and blockchain.
Philippe: Imagine the U.S. is still, madami pang mas magaling, may hackers, they find, oh, they can move the crypto here, ibang bank, ibang digital trace. But I mean, that’s so far fetched. Pero dito sa Pinas, your skills and expertise can help solve all these problems. Kung hindi 100%, kahit 90% of the problems, we will see a first world Philippines.
Jazmine: I would love to see that. But, you know, I would, I like what I’m hearing. But, Filipinos just need to embrace the fact that AI is not here to replace them. It’s here to upgrade them. And AI will be here lang. It’s not a fad. It’s just like the dot-com era.
The AI gold rush is like the dot-com era back then. From the industrial age, nung mga time ng mga, kung sino ang maraming lupa na nabili siya, ang mayaman. And then the dot-com era, kung sino ang nasa internet, PayPal, eBay, the domains, sila ang mayaman.
Jazmine: And kung sino ang gumawa ng mga hardwares and devices to actually get to those dot-com domains, which is, of course, Microsoft, computers, Apple, Google, Yahoo. And then 2010s are the social media takeover, Mark Zuckerberg, LinkedIn, Testy, Libba Testy, Facebook, Friendster, kung naabutan mo yun.
Philippe: My space
Jazmine: Yeah, MySpace. Kung sino yung nag-dominate sa ano na yun, siya ang talagang may kinita or nagkaroon ng name. And right now, we have AI. It’s almost the same. Ang pinaka difference lang is it’s moving so fast.
Did you know that according to research, every three months, artificial intelligence becomes more powerful than ever. Every 3.3 months. It doubles the power. So, every time you are delaying your learning, time will come na you won’t be able to keep up.
Jazmine: Because you won’t be able to know how it started. You just know what it can do. Like me, noong mga time na yun, I was with ChatGPT noong mga time na nag-hallucinate siya yung image niya wala pa. Mid-journey. Na nasa discord pa.
Philippe: Nauna pa.
Jazmine: Yeah. Na distorted pa yung face. Right now, those apps that I’ve been talking about during the duration of this podcast, lahat yun, it can copy your face. Right? So, sobrang, they just need to embrace it. Kasi maraming nagbabash sakin eh, actually, sa social media.
Which, hindi ko naman, ano, eh, debatable yung topic, but lahat sila, fad lang yan, hindi naman yung totoo, ganyan, dilipas din yan. Ang tanong ko, there was this story that inspired me. I saw a video ni Bill Gates, that was 19, I don’t know, 90s, 80s, na ini-interview siya.
Jazmine: So, pinagtatawanan siya nung host. Sabi niya, ano ba itong internet na ito? Sabi niya, ano ba ito? Bakit ba, ano, bakit ba lagi mong sinasabi yan sa mga talk show? Ano ba yan? Ang sabi ni Bill Gates, ah, kasi ah, 2% pa lang nang nasa mundo ang may access nito.
Ano ba pinagkaiba niya? Meron ka bang radio? Nanonood ka ba ng baseball? Ay, nanonood. Do you listen to radio? For example, baseball game. Oo, sabi nung host. Sabi ni Bill Gates, imagine, pwede mo siyang ulit-uliten, YouTube. Pwede mo siyang ulit-uliten video kasi naka-upload siya sa internet. Alam mo ba sabi nung host?
Philippe: Pinagtawagan siya.
Jazmine: Bakit ko gugustuin uliten? Yung host na yan, I’m sure, tumandaan na siya and he can’t even live without the internet. Time will come, we won’t be able to live without AI. Kasi may generative AI, stages. Generative AI is it generates from your prompts.
And then, next jan is the agentic AI. Agentic AI is yung may sarili na siyang otak, pwede mo utusan. It’s happening right now. And magkakaroon din jan yung terminator na. They call it the terminator level. Kasi pwede na siyang lumaban, pabalik. Darating yan, but depende sa atin kung paano natin gagamitin.
Philippe: You came up with a really good, something that’s a good topic to talk about, robotics. Because AI alone is the brain. But when it comes to robotics, do we have any manufacturing company here?
Jazmine: Have you been to China?
Philippe: I don’t need to go there. I saw, watched a documentary of this morning.
Jazmine: Masahe, yung mga nagla-laundry. It’s just $5,000. You have that na.
Philippe: What’s that movie? I, Robot? I, Robot? Forget Terminator. Terminator is a really bad movie.
Jazmine: Kasi napansin mo mga Pilipino, yung mga nila laging fear-based.
Philippe: Yes, always. Always.
Jazmine: You don’t have to fear anything. AI is here to help you.
Philippe: Now, let’s take in, okay, it’s a fact that tasks are going to be replaced. Especially with the ones, with the people using AI. Pero yung mga, ano kasi, for example, yung mga bashers, mga bashers ko, they’re so fearful of the fact that they’ll be replaced.
That’s why they bash us for saying this. And we’re not talking about, we made a session about accountants, right? It was accountants. Dami na bash, dami na kaalit. Sabi, yung AI ba yan? Pupunta ng BIR para mag-negotiate, para ibaba yung mga taxes? Who’s going to coordinate with them? We’re not saying that it’s going to replace CPAs.
Philippe: But of course, any CPA who’s going to start using it to speed up their work, to have their work more efficient, definitely clients were going to want to work with them, not with the CPAs that don’t do that, use AI. So, like you said, fear-based.
Jazmine: You won’t be replaced by AI, but definitely, you will be replaced by somebody who can use it better.
Philippe: Exactly. Same words. The thing is, when are we going to stop fearing these types of progress? Sila nga, they don’t fear giving their taxes. And then watching it, nag-assess, wow, 30 cars, the sky and all that.
Pero AI nga, it’s not even taking our money and they’re afraid of it. Tama ka, mindset ng Pinoy. Dapat yan yung ibago. We’re the AIs, we’re the intelligents, we’re so intelligent, we bash people about AI, but we’re not intelligent enough to say, tama na.
Jazmine: Number one is education. For the next president of the Philippines, education.
Philippe: You can count my vote for you. And I hope, ano man yung scandal na, oh, ginawa yung AI to hack the elections. Yung balota naging hinat ng AI, oh gosh.
Jazmine: AI is just, sa mga hindi nakakaintindi kung ano ang AI, kung bakit kaya nyo to lahat gawin. Technically, it’s just a superhuman. AI is a superhuman that can do 20 tasks kasi may 20 hands siya.
And 20 brains. And kunwari, 24 hours, it can multiply your 24 hours into 20. Ganun lang kasimple si AI. Akala nila, hala i hahack ako nyan No, it’s just a helper multiplying what you want it to multiply.
Philippe: Exactly.
Jazmine: Ganun lang siya kasimple.
Philippe: And plus, hindi siya napapagod. But, just like the internet. Before the internet, diba? When, way back, when the internet first launched, everyone had the fear of, what if it’s used by the wrong hands? AI can be used by the wrong hands.
Jazmine: Lagi, kasi naming scammers. Even, alam mo ba yung mga scammers on TikTok ngayon? Ginagaya nila yung face ko, pero syempre hindi gaya yung voice. Pero just a matter of time na magagaya yun eh. I have, what, 35-36 scammer accounts as Jasmine AI? May Jasmine AI-I na dagdagan lang.
Philippe: AI-AI.
Jazmine: Jasmine.AI, kasi my TikTok username is Jasmine AI and I have a software named Jasmine AI. So, parang, ang ano ron, educational naman. Knowing how to distinguish the difference of AI with the real thing. Kapag lagi mo siyang ginagamit, you will distinguish it as in.
Philippe: There’s one, there’s one part of this conversation that we need to mention. With AI being used by the wrong hands, I don’t think our, our laws. Halimba, we only have Cyber Libel, right?
Jazmine: Yeah, we don’t have laws with that yet.
Philippe: That’s a problem. What if somebody, okay, copied your face, represented your face as a certain authority in this, that you’re involved in this. How can our courts deal with that? That’s one thing that lawyers, even the Department of Justice should take a look at it.
Jazmine: They’re working on it, I think. They’re working on it.
Philippe: A little too slow.
Jazmine: Wala pang, wala pang bill talaga regarding it. But AI is so fast. Sabi ko nga sa’yo, every three months. Kung tayo gumalaw, parang three years.
Philippe: Baka more. Baka more.
Jazmine: Tinawaran ko na nga, three years.
Philippe: No, ako, 30 years. No doubt about it. No doubt about it. Like I said, LGBT has turned 10 years recently, and we’re just knowing it. People are just knowing about it, di ba?
And they’re afraid of it pa. Oh gosh. Yes, you still have 5 billion to go. Hindi mo pa nabanggay ng gagawin mo sa 5 billion. Education, oh sorry, infrastructure, education, and what was the third one?
Jazmine: Alagaan ng pera ng kaban ng bayan.
Philippe: Okay.
Jazmine: Kasi basically, matagal na itong problema, ngayon lang napapublic. Ever since I was a child, marami ng, alam mo yun, lumang tubtugi na yan. Nasanay na nga lang ako. Yung tipong kapag walang korupsyon, feeling ko nananaginip ako.
And that’s sad. It’s sad to live in that generation. Now I wish to see it, see the Filipino people say, tama na. Lahat ah, hindi yung part lang. Like, tama na. Like, ang dami ring martyr. So siguro alagaan ng kaban ng bayan, yung 5 billion na yun, probably with R&D and technology.
Jazmine: How about we partner with other countries to, kung hindi man ready, ang Filipino talent for that? Why don’t we partner with the other governments to help us with it? Singapore, USA, China, Japan. Those countries are just waiting for us.
If we have the money, we will be able to protect kung ano yung meron tayo. Ang dami na ng utang, hindi mo pa pinrotektahan yung, di ba? Trillion ng utang natin eh. Ako yun, at least alam ko yun. Trillion ng utang natin. I’m sure yung mga Pilipino, hindi nila alam gaano karamiyan.
Jazmine: But how we will be able to be a first world Philippines if we have that type of tech? So ano yun, lubog na lubog na lang tayo? No. If all of us will be educated enough to build our own economies, if all of us will be able to help each other, to uplift each other.
Remember ah, kapag ang isang boat is nag-rise because of the tide, all boats rise, right? Yun, yung limang billion na yun is mapupunta with the R&D, integrating blockchain. I’m not a blockchain expert, but I have friends like si Jello Wong.
Jazmine: Jello Wong is the bayani with the blockchain. Nasa ano siya ngayon? Nasa parang meeting sa gobyerno, which I’m proud of him kasi at a very young age, he is rallying the use of blockchain sa gobyerno. And that’s not an easy feat.
Kasi marami siya masasagasaan, but he’s still doing it. And with artificial intelligence naman, artificial intelligence, marami nag-ano-ano, mano-mano. Kasi halimbawa, kailangan mong i-educate yung mga tao, artificial intelligence can probably educate all of the Filipinos kapag na-optimize natin ng tama. It’s just a matter of planning and effort. Ayaw natin gamitin eh. Ba’t natin ayaw gamitin? Kasi mawawala yung kickback, sadly.
Philippe: There’s another topic I want to jump into for AI. How well knowledgeable are you with our defense, our national defense?
Jazmine: Defense, wala masyado.
Philippe: But you’ve heard the news about our ships being rammed by the Chinese and all that. Okay, this is getting political. But let’s talk about our security, our national security.
How strong or knowledgeable are you about our national security? In terms of, number one, our army, our fleets, our weapons, our strategic planning for, let’s say, if there was a war that had to break out between China and the U.S. and nasa gitna tayo.
Jazmine: Well, there was one use case for artificial intelligence. Naalala mo yung binomba sa Qatar?
Philippe: Which one?
Jazmine: Do you remember that missile?
Philippe: Yeah, from Iran.
Jazmine: Iran, exactly. So nung gabing yun, ang dami nagpapanik na OFW kasi may sumabog. That is actually AI.
Philippe: Okay.
Jazmine: AI detected that missile.
Philippe: AI detected, okay. Interesting.
Jazmine: It’s part of artificial intelligence kasi merong sistem si Qatar na wherein yung airbase mo kapag merong nakita at walang permission, attackin niya yan. That’s part of AI.
Philippe: Yeah, anti-missile, I know.Yung defense system kasi I know that in terms of, for example, with the U.S., Japan, they have their own version of AI integrated for their national security and defense weapons and all that. Do we have that?
Jazmine: I am not sure but sana meron.
Philippe: Sana meron because I look at our…
Jazmine: Kasi wala akong nakikita sa news. We’re blind, blinded tayo. Wala tayong news ang source natin. Wala naman tayong source mismo galing sa gobyerno.
Philippe: Look, our Coast Guard… Okay, every time we see our Coast Guard in the news, parang nakakaawa. We look at our Air Force, parang nakakaawa naman yung mga lungi na plano na nabigay pa sa atin. We look at our warships, bigay ni Japan ata ang warships, right? We’re not so highly technologically advanced when it comes to weapons and our national security, which is so sad.
Jazmine: Well, I hope hindi tayong mag-wait ng attack before we go into that. Because time will come na we will be attacked and we won’t be ready for it, just like the flood control.
Philippe: Our nation needs to be good at something. And I’m sure we could be good at AI. Pretty sure.
Jazmine: I’m pretty sure. Kasi mga students ko, I even have a 65 years old that’s building his own app. So it’s not impossible.
Philippe: So what are the excuses now?
Jazmine: So if you think that you can’t do it, I have a senior… Hindi lang siya isa, marami sila. Meron ako isang senior citizen na gumawa ng games, tic-tac-toe, del trip lang niya. Pero may isa akong senior citizen na gumawa yung sugar monitoring.
So in-input lang niya, then in-analyze ng AI yung patterns kung tama ba or on track ba siya. So yun ang trip niya. So sabi ko, kasi it’s like clay. AI is like clay. You can… You can mold it to anything. Pwede mo siyang emold parang laruan or pwede mo siyang patigasin tas bato mo sa kapwa mo. Right?
Philippe: So really good.
Jazmine: So it’s a clay. So it depends. May mga bata na clay yung parang gaganoon lang niya, tatapon. Pero if you give the clay to an artist, magiging pottery yan, benta niya 100,000.
Philippe: We should be that.
Jazmine: Right? So sabi ko nga sa’yo, the fire that melts the butter is the same fire that hardens the steel. So it can either make you or break you. But as a use case as me, as your AI bestie, Jasmine De Luna, I used AI to make sure that I have a voice.
Na we’re in kaya nga AI bestie. Kasi yung mga time na yun, takot na takot sila. Akala nila pang techie and AI. I’m not techie myself. I’m not. Mukha lang. Kasi bakit? Nakasalamin ako? No! I know basic HTML, pero hindi ako… I still need a developer to make me a website.
Jazmine: Right? Kahit drag and drop ba yan? I know what the hex code is, but not really. Right? I’m not a techie. So yung mga server migration nga, nalilito pa ako. Meaning kailangan ko pa rin ng technical people to do technical stuff for me.
So I’m not a techie person, but since magaling ako mag-utos, medyo clear ako sa words ko, I am using AI to my advantage. Dahil lang I know how to talk to it. So me, tingnan mo na lang ako as use case. Five months ago, I was not AI bestie. I was not this Jasmine De Luna, your AI bestie. I was just Jasmine De Luna who didn’t want to talk about money.
Philippe: And look at that shift. Within five months.
Jazmine: Yeah, who’s working for Americans. I’m working for them as a project manager, VP for operations for Instagram growth, LinkedIn, automations, email marketing, funnel building.
Ganun lang naman ako, paulit-ulit. For what? For 80,000 pesos per month. Mataas na yun, pero as a freelancer, alam mo yung okay na ako rin eh. Like, pera na rin yun eh.
Philippe: Exactly
Jazmine: Pero isipin mo yung ginagawa kong trabaho pag sinerch mo.If hindi ako Pilipino, sabi ko kay ChatGPT, magkano tong sahod na to? That’s 20,000 dollars per month.
Philippe: More than a million.
Jazmine:I’m also an SEO specialist. Backlinks ako eh, backlinks ako. So I’m, ano ako with RF. So binabayaran lang nila yun, parang 30,000 per month. Nagpipitchbox ako lahat ng tools.
So, I also know how to automate them. Yan ang usual skills ng VA eh, ng isang freelancer eh. Pareho-pareho lang kami.
Philippe: That’s high level skills of a VA.
Jazmine: Yeah, but gets mo, parang yun yung ano ko. AI made me a superhuman living a super life. It helped me in all forts of life. Parang it gave me back my time, number one. Like I told you, di ba? Hindi na nga ako nag social media.
Bakit may AI nagsiscrape ng news para sa akin? Yung lindol sa Tarlac, hindi ko pa nakikita. Kasi hindi ko pa in-open eh. Di ba? Something like that. Those type of use cases. Like AI can scrape leads for you. Like within the 3 kilometer radius. Halimbawa gusto kong magbenta ng booking system na AI powered sa dental clinics within the 3 kilometer radius.
Jazmine: Magsisearch siya, mga 500, mabibigyan ako. What if mag-set din ako ng AI automations na mag-email? Email niya lahat yung mga yun ng proposal at may booking calendar system na ang ending is imimita ko, mag-talk kami on Zoom. Pati yung note taker ko AI din. How easy life is? Right? I already gave you an idea.
Philippe: Sinusummarize na yung ano, yung boom meeting.
Jazmine: But those are the things AI can do for you. And a million ways more. It’s a clay. What do you do with clay? Right? Something like that.
Philippe: Quote and quote. Jazz AI. Quote and quote. Where can we follow you? Where can we contact you? Where can we hire you?
Jazmine: Well, you can follow me on TikTok. You can follow me on TikTok, jasmine.ai. Please check the spelling. Please check the spelling.
Philippe: Spell it out.
Jazmine: J-A-Z-M-I-N-E dot A-I. Lahat yun. Isang letters lang. Walang numbers. And it’s 46,000 followers. I’m also on Instagram. That’s jasminedeluna underscore J-A-Z-M-I-N-E deluna underscore. 110,000 followers. Wala namang scammers sa Instagram.
But on Facebook, you can see me as jasminedeluna, your AI bestie. Where my cover photo is purple and you will see my gold. To empower one million Filipinos with artificial intelligence for nation building.
Philippe: There we go.
