Philippe: How is it that some people could eat so much pero wala silang tiyan?
Maps: If you’re coming in from a bodybuilding kind of physique tapos kumain ka ng kumain ng marami, yeah, you’ll gain fats, but most likely subcutaneous pa lang yan. Kasi the visceral fats, the fat in our gut, yung belly, it’s accumulated through the years.
Philippe: Is it true na it’s really about calories in, calories out?
Maps: Yes. That’s how we actually gain weight and lose weight. So we gain weight when we’re eating more calories than what our bodies can burn and we lose weight when we’re in a deficit. There’s two types of fats in the body, subcontinuous and visceral fats. Subcontinuous is the fats that’s under our skin that can be like yung fats all around but visceral is the fats sa tiyan. That is the hardest fat to remove because the only way you can remove that is through proper diet and nutrition.
Philippe: Apart from nutrition and everything is there certain exercise na kailangan? Kaya kailangan mag sit-ups? Importante ba sit-ups?
Maps: I would say the best way to lose the fats is.
Philippe: I saw this post few months ago on Facebook. It’s about pinakita nila iba-ibang pictures of Ministry Health heads or what do you call those in here in Pinas? Secretaries, ministry of health secretaries. So pinakita nila iba-iba si Canada, I think not sure if it’s Switzerland, the US and everything.
Lahat sila if you look at them, ministry of health nga or department of health diba tapos yung secretary, makikita mo sila very unfit, obese and everything and sila pa yung nag aadvice na parang, they give you that advice where oh the food pyramid, this is what you follow, this is what you eat and everything.
Philippe: It’s so ano lang it’s so funny kasi to think that they’re the secretary of the department of health or the director whatsoever diba. Diba dapat healthy?
Maps: Oo. I mean you have to walk the talk, right? Like how will I believe you if you’re you yourself is unfit, right? Ang hirap non.
Philippe: I mean you don’t want just it’s just like going to the gym like I remember I think this was few weeks ago. So, I’m in a gym on the treadmill doing something and then later on you see like on the side you could tell like there’s like a there’s a coach and there’s someone’s a little unfit and and overweight.
But it seems like the coach is much more overweight and then, pero masasabi mo na dati he has muscle but he’s got like a lot of fat on that muscle and everything is beer belly and stuff. So I was like how does that work, diba?
Maps: I mean, I don’t want to be shady, but you got to walk the talk.
Philippe: I agree. I agree. Which you’ve proven many times before and then you have a track record of that. And I believe, you know, putting it on social media about, oh, I have students and I don’t think that’s the right way to document.
That’s the wrong way. And it’s usually always in the gym with a selfie with with whatever. But I love what you showed me with your folder. Let’s let’s give it a shot.
Maps: I think it’s nice to show this because at the end of the day, the results will speak for itself. So these are some of the transformations of my clients through. Ayan you can see them.
Philippe: Nakikita ba?
Maps: Oh dia, I mean, we talking about real people with real results.
Philippe: Before and after.
Maps: Diba, before and after.
Philippe: And how long what’s the. How long did it take them to lose that kind of weight?
Maps: Now, actually, it depends on, some of them kasi are chill like they want to take their time, which is fine. But, for example, I have this guy here. He used to weigh 235 lbs. He’s lost a total of 66 lbs. So, he went down to 169. And this was in a span of 5 months.
Philippe: 5 months?
Maps: Yeah. And I would say it’s because yun nga we put the formula of 80% nutrition, 20% exercise, 100% mindset. Because you can’t just keep on exercising and hope to lose weight. You will, but it’s going to be slower process. If you want to be effective and efficient, then you really have to put emphasis on the nutrition side.
Philippe: And is it true na it’s really about calories in, calories out. Is it?
Maps: Yes. That’s how we actually gain weight and lose weight. So, we gain weight when we’re eating more calories than what our bodies can burn and we lose weight when we’re in a deficit.
But it’s not always na parang sobrang low ng defecit mo because it becomes counterintuitive.
Pag masyadong mababa ang calories na kino-consume mo your body is always determined to live. So it tends to think uy hindi mo ako pinapakain i’ll store these fats so I live.
Philippe: How is it that some people could eat so much pero wala silang tiyan pero lumalaki other parts of their body, their arms, their hips and everything? Ba’t pag dating sa tiyan, why is it flat? I mean you could tell even yung mga, okay.
I have a lot of friends who are in the body building industry na parang di ko. And if it’s time for their off season kumakain sila ng kumakain. Yung iba maraming may tiyan but there’s this bunch parang merong tatlo na kahit gano sila kumain four cups of rice six cup of rice and all this protein and thing. Ang taba nila sa mukha nila pero pag dating don walang tiyan.
Maps: Okay.
Philippe: How?
Maps: Good thing you brought it up. Well, I guess cuz they’re bodybuilders na eh, so they do have muscle. But kasi cuz there’s two types of fats in the body. Subcontinuous and visceral fats. Subcontinuous is the fats that’s under our skin that can be like yung fats all around but visceral is the fats sa tiyan.
That is the hardest fat to remove because the only way you can remove that is through proper diet and nutrition. So if you’re coming in from a bodybuilding kind of physique, tapos kumain ka ng kumain ng marami. Yeah, you’ll gain fats but most likely Subcontinuous pa lang yan. Kasi the visceral fats the fat in our gut yung belly it’s accumulated through the years. So yun.
Philippe: so what’s okay apart from nutrition and everything is there certain exercise na kailangan just to, kailangan mag sit-ups importante mag sit-ups?
Maps: I would say the best way to lose the fats is by building muscle. And how do you build muscle? Through resistance training. So, anything that will give you resistance, weightlifting, even mga doing push-ups, squats or like bands basta may resistance.
Philippe: I’ll give you one example of this person.
Maps: Okay.
Philippe: This guy can eat like one caldero of rice with I’m telling you this guy could eat. Walang char-char, merong char pero, it’s so he doesn’t do any sort of exercise but he does father dutties. So his exercise merely is buhat yung anak nya, yung dalawang anak nya, doing whatever he needs to do as a dad. So yan yung pinaka. Tama ba?
Mclain: Parang one main secret. Whenever pag fitted yung shirt, syempre ayaw naka labas yung tiyan mo.
Maps: OO.
Mclain: So what do you do is you crunch.
Philippe: So form of exercise din nag cru-crunch kayo?
Maps: OO core exercise din yun.
Mclain: Diba, syempre kung naglalakad kayo ayaw mo naman kita yung tiyan mo, so all the way na nasa public ka naka crunch ako. I was doing that ever since since high school.
Maps: Ah, okay.
Mclain: So whenever na, tas pag wala ng tao. And the pag labas ulit.
Maps: Well, that’s a good way. I mean, it’s core ano.
Mclain: Yeah, that’s it. And that was the time na parang na notice ko na uy teka there’s something under the ano the fats. Pero retain it because of my kids. Yan ang problema ng body builder eh pag nag buhat.
Maps: Ganon ba?
Mclain: Oh pag pagod na yung arms mo walang papatungan yung baby eh o yung bata kasi puro ka abs eh di naman kakapit yung bata sa abs.
Philippe: I should agree on that point kasi ginagawa ko sya. Nakapatong sya para kung wala akong baby seat nandito na, oo.
Mclain:Oh diba nakapatong lang sya, tas wala alalay ka lang sa likod nya and then the kids just sit on your tummy.
Philippe: Pero that’s my point. This guy can eat.
Maps: I guess he’s blessed with his metabolism
Philippe: Yes. Kasi even nong wala pa syang kids, I mean, we’ve known each other for more than a decade now. I remember pag kakain kami sa labas kulang-kulang yung ano yung 2 rice kulang-kulang tapos yung ibang ano namin. Halimbawa may natira na rice, kukunin nya uubusin nya.
Maps: I would say ano rin naman yan eh nasa physiology na yan ng body natin where our body wants to store the fats. So maybe some people are blessed na wala silang tiyan but the fats can be stored in other parts of their bodies.
Philippe: So kailangan talaga no cuz I know there’s different types of body part ah body parts. There’s different types pala, body types yun. And then is it true kasi ewan ko kung nagiging uso to kasi, yeah we talk about nutrition we talk about fats we talk about different types of body types and then importante daw but I beg to defer because I mean your results just says it all.
Kasi ang daming they go to the extreme where they have to get their DNA tested and then they look at everything in terms of your health perspective, your deficiencies, your where you were originally, ethnicity and all that and then what are the vitamins that work for you and not, diba? Is it something, kasi mahal sya so like a simple DNA test will cost maybe 15 to 25,000 depending on that.
Maps: Oh my gosh!
Philippe: But they say that it tells you everything that you need. Kasi for example yung iba ang daming calcium deposits because inom sila ng inom ng gatas or eating a lot of getting a lot of calcium and naiipon don sa bloodstream nila and then that causes their hypertension and all that.
Maps: Oo
Philippe: And then a lot of other doctors are saying or not so not doctors, a lot of health buffs, influencers. Sinasabi nila na better have your like blood work and check what you’re really deficiency in because a lot of the vitamins that we take especially the timing yung mga omega369, whatever parang sometimes it doesn’t work if you don’t have it with food.
Is that is that true? Is this all this – I mean how does it work? Because it looks like this is all talk no results but yours is just straight up results. So parang.
Maps: I think yeah. For me it goes back to making things fun, simple and magical. Because again when you go back to yung mga sabi mong DNA testing and so on and napaka expensive start complicating a lot of things again.
At the end of the day being healthy, fit and active is all about going back to basics and keeping things as simple as possible because when things are simple and doable then that’s actually where you get the results. Find a diet or a program that will work for you na you can sustain. Kasi it gets impractical when you have to pay for so much expensive things tapos wala ka naman palang results.
Maps: So why not go with something that shows proven results and also parang to me when I coach my clients it’s also a learning process cuz it’s also a journey of self-discovery of what works for you in your body, diba.
Philippe: I love your answer. It’s so I mean just simplify the whole process. No need for all these DNA tests and all that.
Maps: No need for that.
Philippe: Okay, I did a quick AI search on our health sector. So the budget that was approved for this year is 447.6 billion. That’s the budget allocation for the department of health. So kasama yan sa PhilHealth, kasama yan sa iba-ibang program like bayad na bill mo.
Right now there’s stats on leading causes of mortality – ischemic heart disease. I’ve never heard about that. Responsible for nearly 20% of fatalities ischemic heart disease isn’t that so heart attack and all that. Neoplastic disease cancers, this is new cerebrovascular disease – stroke.
Maps: Okay.
Philippe: That’s number three.
Maps: Okay.
Philippe: Akalo ko number oneyan. Pneumonia number four. Diabetes number five. Top five yan. But the leading one is heart disease talaga. So hypertension, all the stuff, hypertension, high blood, cholesterol and all that. Top five at least diabetes still there.
So let’s address this based on what you think with your expertise because yeah number one heart disease. How can if you were the secretary of the department of health, what would you what’s your first agenda for finding all these five mortalities?
Maps: Okay. Let me think about that.
Philippe: Yeah, let’s Oh, let’s start ano heart disease.
Maps: Okay, so I’m not first of all, I’m not a doctor or ano i’m just speaking from what I know from my experience and.
Philippe: Uy, disclaimer agad.
Maps: Oo nag eh, ano ba I just want to be safe about it. I’m not. I’m a health coach. Sorry, nutrition coach.
Philippe: Nutrition coach.
Maps: But you know what? All of those diseases that you mentioned all came from years of our how we eat or our eating habits. So maybe if I was a secretary of those parang maybe start implementing laws on ano ba yung proper diet and nutrition that we Filipinos should be eating and be learning about it from what, from school pa lang.
Kasi I think we were talking about it kanina na bakit yung Japan for example, they’re so healthy when it comes to their foods. And I said, well, it starts from when they’re kids in school. They learn about proper diet and nutrition and the government actually has laws na parang this is how much this is the kind of food that they should be eating.
Philippe: So mandatory kasi in Japan, right?
Maps: Oo.
Philippe: So dapat mandatory din dito.
Maps: Oo kasi you know, we were just talking about visceral fats and subontinuous fats, right? Visceral fats are fats that are accumulated throughout the years of unhealthy eating. And those visceral fats are the fats surrounding our organs, our internal organs even including sa heart. And that’s why nagkakaroon tayo ng cardiovascular diseases.
So it all stems from years of what we’re eating, diba. Now if I was secretary then syempre start from a young age na e-implement. We should be eating healthier foods having proper balanced diets sa nutrition rather than kasi parang it’s all about prevention rather than cure eh.
Maps: Kasi when you get to the cure part parang it’s too late. You’re trying to just get back to your normal. So let’s up our health and fitness first before dumating tayo sa mga medicines.
Philippe: Great answer madam secretary.
Maps: Thank you.
Philippe: What would be the first rule or first mandatory system that you would provide if you were the secretary of the department of health right? Be just to fight heart disease I mean what would be if you had the power to do that what would what would you say?
Maps: I would say having access to fresh foods, proper diet and nutrition, diba. Kasi parang it comes from yun nga we were talking earlier about diba yung mga processed and preserved foods. Those are what makes us gain fats. Having access to fresh foods is actually one of the healthiest things that we can do.
Like ano eh ano na natin yung agriculture natin na make sure na we are able to have those access and make those foods affordable for Filipinos.
Philippe: And I think the government should subsidize in terms of agriculture of the farming kasi farmlands these days is very backwards, right? You don’t need a farmland to grow a lot of crops. Especially the necessary crops we do. For example I believe the necessity in households in grocery I don’t usually- onions, garlic, tomatoes which can be, tama ba? Which can be harvested in, is that aquaponics, I remember?
Mclain: There is an aquaponics and then there’s a vertical farming.
Maps: Ah
Philippe: Pero yung vertical farming, there’s one with aquaponics where there’s fish pa but what can grow on water itself without soil, I think cabbages?
Maps: Oo, mga cabbage, pechay
Philippe: Yeah
Maps: Ano pa ba, the greens
Philippe: Pero ang garlic and onions, tama ba ang garlic and onions and tomatoes can grow in small, in vertical farmsMaps: I think so
Philippe: with with soil naman and I think that’s where the government lacks in terms of innovation for farming
Maps: Yeah
Philippe: Because to give you one example, there’s a vertical farm in China that’s warehouse big. It’s as big as a warehouse and it’s automated by robotics pa and AI. It’s so high tech. Parang yung AI nanaghaharvest ng soil. The robotics powered by the AI is, is adjusting the the light and everything, the red light cuz that’s what they need for photos sentences and all that.
But what started that was a a startup in Singapore. She’s one person, she’s a health buff as well, but she had problems with access to healthy produce. Kasi lahat daw ng mga produce, either imported or hindi siya organic. So what she did is, she started this vertical farming, pero manual siya ha. She doesn’t have any AI tech or anything.
Maps: Yeah
Philippe: She does it and she combined it with aquaponics where there’s fish and then the, Is it true that yung waste ng fish
Maps: Oo
Philippe: Nagiging fertilizer sa plants, so it’s a whole cycle
Maps: Gana nga nun eh
Philippe: Right? I mean oh madam secretary why don’t we why don’t we, why don’t we innovate that. That alone will give us fresh organic produce
Maps: Yeah
Philippe: It’ll fight heart disease
Maps: At the same time it makes food accessible in our own homes. We grow it ourselves. We’re in, we’re in control of like the food itself. We don’t add pesticides and stuff like that or chemicals. That’s another thing. I just thought of another thing right now.
Making it mandatory in schools to learn about basic diet and nutrition. Kasi having knowledge will help you make better choices for yourselves. And I realize that’s what I teach my clients din eh. It’s not just about giving them the products and coaching them, but also teaching them proper basics on nutrition like what are calories, what why you need hydration, what are carbs, proteins, macros.
Maps: Kasi, when you have this sense of knowledge on what you’re eating, then you make better choices. Hindi yung paran, oh, I’ll just eat this kasi nakakabusog. Ganyan ganyan ganyan, diba?
Philippe: Dapat ganun nga. Because even in the public schools, you don’t even teach our constitution anymore. Only only certain schools. But generally speaking, in the public schools, wala na. May flag ceremony and that’s it. But in terms of our constitution, kasi dapat kasama sa institutio yan, you know, right?
Maps: Oo
Philippe: If you, if we want to have great a great economy with healthy workers with everything, talagang our, I think we’ll thrive as a as a nation, right? If we have less disease.
Maps: Exactly.
Philippe: We can, we don’t need to be medical experts
Maps: Yeah
Philippe: Or we don’t need to be the ones where oh we could cure cancer, but we could be the experts in prevention.
Maps: Yeah,diba? That’s why it goes back to what I said in kanina, health creates wealth. Imagine a healthier population of Filipinos Then we’ll be able to, you know, actually have more energy to be able to work more to really unleash our potential. Then we can create more wealth for our country.
Philippe: And this 400, ano yung ano 447.6 billion for 2026 national budget for health for the health.
Maps: Anong nangyari?
Philippe: Okay. Sabihin natin half of this has to go to emergencies. I’m fine with that.
Maps: Okay
Philippe: Insurance and everything. It happens. Emergencies, may nasagasaan, kailangan. But I think you could, they could save a lot on this. If you could save 200 billion, what programs are you going to put on?
Maps: I would put.
Philippe: Apart from what you said.
Maps: Yeah. Put it on the prevention side. like give us access then to not just proper diet and nutrition but places where we can actually have you know space to exercise to walk, diba. Through I think that’s what I realized cuz I’m also a traveler so parang bakit wala tayong ganito sa Pinas?
Na parang space where you know. Kasi we’re so full of malls diba like super consumerism, you know. Pero why can we just have like a place where we can go out and just do physical activities. I think we need that.
Philippe: We need more parks, no? Kasi meron lang sa BGC yung ganon eh.
Maps: Oo, paano yung sa areas outside BGC?
Philippe: Mausok.
Maps: Dangerous walang ano, polluted.
Philippe: That’s why when I see runners sorry I see people walking or jogging outside in the street. Parang it’s not they’re inhaling carbon monoxide from all the cars and then parang I think naaawa ako they might have pneumonia eventually, diba? Parang it’s a bad way to do exercise in a bad location. We need more parks.
Maps: We need more parks, proper walkways or running areas para naman It would encourage people to get out to walk, to run, to do activities.
Philippe: Did you know there was a proposal for. Diba EDSA sobrang traffic? So, okay. Well, let’s kind of deviate from this. EDSA sobrang traffic so, they were proposing let’s say a skyway on top of EDSA and they were also proposing why not because we have problems in our public transportation. Yung buong EDSA gawing ano walkway on top of EDSA. So it’s like parallel to the MRT.
Maps: Okay.
Philippe: Okay. So if you don’t want to take the MRT, you could walk from SM North up to Makati.
Maps: Okay.
Philippe: Or up to Pasay, diba? Just walking.
Maps: Okay.
Philippe: But of course, indoor sya. So pag umulan you could still walk. So ibig sabihin if you don’t have money to ride the MRT, you can just walk.
Maps: Maganda san.
Philippe: Diba? You could walk and then you could make it siguro you could put solar panels and everything and then you could walk your dog and there’s going to be like a bike lane so you could bike as well.
Maps: Yeah.
Philippe: I think that’s a great idea.
Maps: That would be a great idea
Philippe: Diba, because we hear people like cycling na oh nag Philippine loop kami. Okay, diba, why not go EDSA? Right? Just walk the whole from SM North hanggang ano Parañaque, diba?
Maps: Oo.
Philippe: No but still.
Maps: I woul sya magandang idea sana yon. I mean like if we can implement something like that, make it also safe and accessible.
Philippe: Yeah. I mean, yeah, it’s supposed to be like that para at least you know, people would be would be enticed. Na uy lakad nalang tayo, it’s nice. Di naman kailangan air-conditioned but kailangan maganda yung ano yung internal what do you call. Parang sa kotse, diba? Yung atmosphere and the temperature has to be not too hot, not too cold, not everything.
Maps: I think can I just share I experienced something like that in Bangkok recently. Parang ito yung MRT nila, may walkway sa ilalim tas ito yung road sa ilalim. Parang ang galing non.
Philippe: See? Gayahin natin yan.
Maps: Ang ganda kasi parang you see. Oo nga no people are walking. If even if it’s like a short distance, it’s better than, you know, traffic ka pa like.
Philippe: And diba na late ka pa. You have, we we cut the budget in half. You have 200 billion. You think 200 billion is enough to construct that walkway from Caloocan up to Pasay?
Maps: More than enough.
Philippe: More than enough, right?
Maps: Oo.
Philippe: Gosh. Oh kailan natin e-implement? I want to go back to yung sinabi mo when you were in Spain that they had parks and they had like group sessions. Recently I was in Hong Kong and then um it’s my second time in Hong Kong. The first time it was such a long time ago. So when I got there I was kind of surprised about we were, I I’ve seen the group sessions but they were doing Tai Chi. And ang sabi ko wow I only see this in the movies.
They’re doing Tai Chi together and it was cold. Kasi that time na pumunta kami it was freezing. Kaya sabi ko, we were walking around the park outside the hotel and then we saw this session. Sabi ko wow gusto ko sumali sa mga ganyan. Diba it’s so nice and it’s a mix of seniors and young people and I think we need that. I mean we can do Tai Chi, right?
Maps: I do believe though. I know, right? Parang yan nga yung one of my dreams din eh. To have like to create a community, call it a fit club parang where people can just come in and join and enjoy like exercising together, meet people tapos yun just, you know, all around good vibes, supporting each other positively in our fitness journeys.
Philippe:Oh, that would be so nice.
Maps: Diba?
Philippe: You have to start it. You have to start it para at least meron tayong ganyan.
Maps: I try to start one in our village. Like it’s a small ano lang like I try to do like a wow morning run. So parang just to encourage yung mga tao sa loob to hey come just join us for a run and then end up at my shop for shakes after.
Philippe: Ah nice, nice. I think ano maybe start with Zumba because everyone just knows Zumba, right?
Maps: Yeah, everybody’s doing Zumba or actually I want to well I’m not a dancer so I don’t really do Zumba but I I want to do like yun nga like inspired from that thing that I experienced in Spain like a short a small fit club lang. Like people who are into fitness tara let’s just lead like 15 minute workouts per ano then invite people to just join whether they’re new or seasoned na. Para lang they have a community to just.
Philippe: That’s nice tapos bonding din, diba? You get to know. Okay, so we’ve talked about heart diseases now neoplastic disease which is cancers I think all types of cancers naman to. This is something that from doing a lot of deep research and watching a lot of documentaries in this.
Apparently cancers are if someone has stage one or stage four cancer it’s your body’s response in, diba usually mga lumps or may mga mass. What our body is doing pala if there’s a certain cancer a certain part of your body, it kind of suffocates it and makes it into a mass para hindi sya mag spread.
Philippe: Kaya yung iba pala they could do you could do surgery, you could take it out and just do chemo and whatsoever. Pero ang dami daw based on 2025 research and all that. Cancers are mostly caused by the types of food that we eat.
So for example, someone very healthy in terms of he’s fit, he does has a regimen, he works out and everything, but the food that’s he’s trying he or she’s trying to eat let’s say they eat junk food once a week that can cause it can trigger a form of cancer in their colon form of cancer in their lung because of that type of food.
Philippe: So there are triggers pala. You know but now with people with cancer based on ano research I don’t know if these are these are practical results or they’re just generalized pero wala kasing published results in the who and all that.
But cancers can be cured, not cured or taken away, reducing the cancer by eating less sugar because they feed on it daw. And because chemo is a very extreme way of trying to kill cancer.
Maps: Yeah.
Philippe: I think the best part of ano is, ang sabi daw nila is to starve the cancer. I’m getting to the point where people started suggesting health buffs nutrition advisors and all that with the term fasting. So what are your thoughts about fasting in general?
Maps: Fasting technically we’re already fasting at night when we’re asleep. So for me, if you’re trying to just lose weight for a short term time, like fasting is fine, but then again, you already fasted that night eh when you’re asleep. Kaya nga we have breakfast cuz it’s break the fast.
Philippe: Sa bagay.
Maps: Oh diba. So parang only I would say just fasting for what religious purposes or ano pa ba yung other reasons for fasting like trying to lose weight. But then again, to me kasi it’s like, why are you depriving yourself when you can actually just eat healthier or eat normally and be satisfied? Parang there’s no right now there’s no cure for cancer, but the best you can do is really just keep yourself healthy and fit, right? That’s what I could say about it.
Philippe: There’s a lot of advisor in health saying that when. Kasi ang daming nag ddoubt even reals and stuff like 8 hours of sleep is great fasting but if you push that to 16 hours or 24 hours that’s where you start burning fats. Is that is that a true thing or is it just?
Maps: True naman kasi again we lose weight when we’re eating less calories. So when you’re fasting di ka talaga kumakain.
Philippe: Sa bagay.
Maps: But then what happens when during the time that you’re going to eat, anong nangyayari lumalamon ka ba or are you just eating normally then? So fasting I’d say is a little tricky in that sense
Philippe: Because they get more hungry. I never fast. I fasted. I worked.
Maps: Oo. At the end of the day parang again, it’s how much calories you consume in a day. So if you, let’s say, you fasted for 16 hours in a day, but then your last 8 hours, sobrang dami namang kinain mo. Didn’t that just defeat the purpose? Rather than you just eat something small during breakfast, lunch, have a snack, and then dinner. Kumain ka like four or five times a day, then you’re good.
Philippe: That’s a really good point. That’s a really good point. Tama naman. I guess.
Maps: Ayun, back to simplicity. Yung body talaga natin wants us to live. We need to eat.
Philippe: Sa bagay. Have you heard of uh Bryan Johnson?
Maps: No, I’m not familiar.
Philippe: Okay. He’s a sort of a. Well, he’s a billionaire who got into extreme health extreme health study. You should look it up. He’s kind of interesting. But he does things to the extreme, but his main goal is about longevity. How to live forever daw. So diba? Yeah, it’s to the extreme.
Maps: Okay.
Philippe: So he experimented a lot, he’s investing $2 million per year just to do a deep dive on experiments and everything. He’s his own guinea pig. Experiments that the FDA won’t approve in medical experiments that won’t approve. He’s done a lot. He’s taken he talks about a lot about sleep, about nutrition, and he’s not an expert. He’s just a billionaire. Is this just a billionaire who has a lot of money. He wants to live forever.
Maps: Okay.
Philippe: He wants to become immortal. Okay. And yeah, I think that’s an extreme word, but I kind of find him entertaining because usually with medical advancements, you need what do you call it? Human experimentations.
Maps: Experiment? Okay.
Philippe: Once you have that then they could approve a certain procedure like all the surgeries we have this were done with experiments, diba? But these days FDA is very strict. So this guy does it extreme like he doesn’t care and he has his doctors he has his nurses he has someone documenting all his journey into it.
A lot of what he says a lot are very what do you say like I said to the extreme and people don’t agree with him. But there’s some points that he would say some tips and advice is that works. Because I tried it first time.
Maps: Okay.
Philippe: Because I was like, you need someone crazy to wake everyone up and for them to actually try it for themselves. So for example one thing that I 100% agree with him is his regimen for sleep. He says at least four hours before don’t eat. Let your body digest and everything and then at least before sleep.
One hour before no phone, no devices, lights off, blackout curtains and everything. It worked because I’ve been well, it’s not as successful as it was, but I’ve been trying his process and it works.
Maps: Yeah, that one I agree with. Sleep is very essential.
Philippe: And parang ang sinasabi you have to be a professional when it comes to sleep. Sabi ko what the hell is professional? But you have to treat it professionally. So like when we go to work, for example, you go work in corporate. Pasok mo 8AM dapat nandun ka 7:50 nag tatime-in ka na, hindi yung 8AM nandun ka na.
That’s diba you try to treat it professionally, right? So that’s what I’ve been trying to do lately. But sleep, everything he says about sleep, I’m in for it. I agree with him. Other stuff when it comes to nutrition and stuff like olive oil. He takes two shots of virgin olive oil in the morning. With salad. Okay.
Maps: Okay.
Philippe: Shot. He says it tastes good, but I never tried. But I’m I’m curious. I wanted to try. And then actually I learned that from him na not all olive oil, virgin olive oils are equal because a lot are just processed and manufactured in food coloring. And then he developed his own products and he has a lot of people are a lot of experts, medical experts, surgeons, doctors daming galit sa kanya.
Maps: Okay.
Philippe: But remember we need someone crazy enough just like Elon Musk.
Maps: Oo.
Philippe: Na sinasabi oh in 10 years we’re going to go to Mars. We’re going to live in Mars. Everyone’s like what the Fuck, right? What’s going on? The version of that is Bryan Johnson for this.
Maps: Okay.
Philippe: You should check him out.
Maps: Sige.
Philippe: And the reason why I’m telling you this is because sometimes people don’t listen to okay, people don’t listen to, oh, eat healthy, eat ganito ganyan. I think they need to hear the extreme. You know, for them to take attention to get attention.
Maps: Yeah.I get the point. I mean, for that guy, I guess it works for him and he also has the resources, right?
Philippe: A lot of resources.
Maps: Yeah, he has a lot of resources eh. Pero kasi like with a normal person sometimes it has to take the decision yourself to make the change kasi sometimes the pain of staying this when the pain of staying the same is greater than changing then that’s when you decide to change, diba?
Philippe: True enough just like the breakup.
Maps: Oo.
Philippe: Just like the breakup, right?
Maps: Tama naman eh like but you can we can always share yung experiences but at the end of the day we have to find something that will work for us and with our resources as well.
Philippe: Apart from the other countries that you’ve traveled to, let’s say, other than Spain. So, what else have you noticed in other countries that you’ve visited in terms of health? And what do they do that you think that we need to do here as an extreme for us to be healthier?
Maps: Okay. So, recently, just last January, I visit I got the chance to visit Bhutan. So, it’s like I love it. It’s super I would say they’re very traditional and rich in culture. And that’s the one of the only countries I felt like when I went there para akong nag time travel.
Philippe: Wow. Why?
Maps: Kasi like they do have modern conveniences such as phones, but they would rather stick to, you know, their how their houses are built is still traditional with the paintings and everything. And then what surprised me the most is also when it comes to their food. Wala kang makikitang McDonald’s or Burger King or whatever there.
They don’t have those because they would rather have restaurants or home-cooked meals and food that came from the lands that they farmed. And I see them as, oh, they’re quite healthy. Parang that was like mind-blowing to me because, you know, they live quite a simple life. They’re satisfied.
Maps: Kaya nga they say Bhutan is one of the happiest countries in the world because their basic needs are well taken care of. So parang, that really surprised me that, you know, you don’t need a lot pala in life to be happy and content.
Philippe: Was this is this government mandated na dapat no McDonald’s, no fast food, or is this a cultural thing?
Maps: I’d say it’s more of a cultural thing for them.
Philippe: Oh gosh. No.
Maps: Na parang ang galing.
Philippe: Ang galing na kasi. So it means we have we don’t need the government to actually make it mandatory for us to be healthy. It’s just a mindset of our culture, but we have a toxic culture. So.
Maps: I guess kasi we got so influenced by the western culture. Na parang oh we got to be like them too ano. That’s why I was saying it’s nice if we also invest in our own agriculture in our own produce so that we have access to fresh food.
Sorry to add parang. We’re in the Philippines. We’re surrounded by the sea. We have so much diba na parang seafood, sea life, and then we have so much land for agriculture. Parang we have all these resources. Why don’t we have access to them?
Philippe: That’s a really good point. I think that one’s because there has to be some government intervention on that because I think as Filipinos, I would I would separate the ones in the provinces. Eh yung mga sa provinces talagang they eat fish and eat stuff.
The only problem is the influence because apart from the fish and right now in the province that a part of Pangasan there was one area that we used to go to a lot. Walang McDonald’s right now may McDonald’s and Jollibee. So all the all the there’s a choice for people there to eat junk food already. But the time that we used to go there previous to that, fish, dried fish, anything that’s from the local market. Which is great, you know. Okay, we have 190 billion to go.
Maps: Dami pala nating pera.
Philippe: Oh, no. Tell us about more of your travels. Let’s say when you went to the US, how did you find it different from here and from Bhutan?
Maps: Okay. Well, definitely US is very consumerism. So parang, you go to the grocery ang daming food items and everything’s like what in freezers, preserved foods sobrang. Kasi everything is about fast food, diba?
When it starts to be like fast food, parang those have chemicals, preservatives, and all those things that causes yung us to get fat versus places like Bhutan or Japan where the food is usually fresh. Parang better access to those is like again goes back to eating whole foods.
Maps: Taking like I realized then living a slow intentional life is going to also what’s help what’s going to help you be mindful when you’re eating kasi the faster we eat parang keep on eating eating eating versus like when we’re eating fresh food that is actually nutritious then yung parang it slows us down and be helps us become more mindful of what we consume.
Philippe: And is it true when, which part of the US did you go to?
Maps: I’ve been to recently I’ve been to San Francisco.
Philippe: Is it true that there’s a lot of these people?
Maps: Yeah, I remember the first time I ever went to the US was I think in 2012. I went to Washington DC and New York. And I’m like, ang tataba ng mga tao dito. Sorry to say, pero like I’m surprised at how big people can be there, diba? Like the restaurants may have yung mga caloric numbers or caloric ano, but then it’s so much fast food, Starbucks, donuts and whatever. Parang everything’s so unhealthy. And also the portions are so big.
Philippe: I agree with you about the portions.
Maps: The portions are so big. I’m like, no wonder the people here are big. Versus when I go to Japan, parang yeah, sure, they have the fast foods, but then you go to a normal a typical Japanese restaurant, all the food is fresh, the sushi, the, you know, the fish and you see people, they’re actually slim. Cuz also in the in Japan, like it’s a culture of walking. Diba?
Philippe: Oh, right.
Maps: In the US, it’s a culture of driving.
Philippe: Driving and eating.
Maps: Driving and eating.
Philippe: Pero in Japan, I think the only obese people are the super wrestlers, right?
Maps: Yeah. And them culturally, kasi they want to be healthier. And parang actually I remember now when we were there with my dad, my dad was frustrated kasi wala syang mahanap na double XL t-shirts. Kasi all Japanese people are slim, diba?
Na parang bakit ganon sa Japan versus the US or I would even say in Europe cuz parang I visited different European countries. The food there, they’re also not so into fast foods. They would rather go to their local restaurants. Na parang that’s better cuz it’s like home-cooked meals.
Philippe: So it’s really the US who influence like the whole world when it comes to sugars, carbs and all that. Oh gosh.
Maps: Oo, grabi.
Philippe: That’s one thing we have to ano we have to avoid you know.
Maps: If I may add din. There was a time I went to Europe last year like I was there for a month traveling different places eating I was eating anything and everything I want like pastas and what mga paellas and ganon. I came back home I’ve lost 13 lbs. Surprise.
Philippe: Wow. We have to go.
Maps: Diba? I think it’s also the quality of food kasi eh. Yung how they make their pastas is made of fresh materials rather than kung ano anong nilalagay sa mga preserved foods in the US. But again, my point is why I also lost that weight is because I was active. I was walking. I also kept drinking my shake alo tea every day.
Philippe: Diba may pandemic tayo and all that. I think here there’s an ongoing epidemic on sugar. Hindi na it doesn’t we don’t regulate it properly or we don’t know.
Maps: Yeah.
Philippe: Because for example there’s a lot of milk tea popup stores all around Metro Manila right? And then 50% sugar. No 100% sugar always right. And then the what do you call that you gulaman or the boba or whatever it’s made of sugar, right? And we’re a culture of when it comes to halo halo when it comes to what’s that thing? No, the ice cream thing. That’s crushed ice.
Maps: Bing soup.
Philippe: No, the Filipino thing. The scramble.
Maps: Ah, scramble.
Philippe: Right? I tried that recently and grabi it’s all sugar. But if you look at Filipinos, we’re not. Okay halo-halo tayo.But we’re not as like in the US where everyone’s just big and fat, right? And dito there’s only you could see in a crowd, merong isa, dlawa, tatlo. But generally speaking, we’re the type where mukha tayong payat pero deep inside ang taba natin.
Maps:Yeah.
Philippe: Right. Like just like you said, yung visceral fat, right, around the organs. And maybe that’s why we have a lot of diba number one yung ano natin is heart disease because tama ba all the fats are surrounded?
Maps: Yeah. Our fats uh visceral fats are the fats that are surrounding our organs. So that’s is also the reason why we have yung ma diabetes, heart problems, fatty liver, pcos all those things it comes from our diet.
Philippe: So we, it has to be mandatory na there should be a regulation and ano.
Maps: Yeah. In other countries meron talagang mga laws on that on how much sugar you can put in your food. I don’t know if you noticed like US chocolates or candies sobrang tamis compared to other parts of the world. Like I’ve noticed it myself like I like to buy chocolates din naman talaga. So when I’m in European parang sabi ko ay masarap to kasi di siyaganon ka tamis.
Philippe: Pero may lasa.
Maps: Merong lasa.
Philippe: ‘Di sya yung chocolate lang
Maps: Oo parang ganon. Kaya parang whenever I end up eating American chocolates like oh my god it’s too too sweet now for me.
Philippe: I just wonder how we could control and reg I mean we regulate?
Maps: As the secretary.
Philippe: How would you regulate?
Maps: Dapat we put regulations on that.
Philippe: Pero feeling ko ang daming magagalit. Ano ba yan di na masarap pagkain natin.
Mclain: Dapat yata magkaroon ng pandemic. 1 mont lockdown. Kasi nong pandemic medyo payat mga tao.
Philippe: No.
Maps: No, no, no. Some people during the pandemic either pumayat sila or lumaki.
Mclain: Ah okay.
Philippe: Ako lumaki ako mukha akong ano eh, I don’t know. I just blew up in ano. Eh paano naman parang because we’re so we’re, okay. Filipino generally diba ang hilig natin miryenda, breakfast miryenda, lunch miryenda.
Maps: Eh Filipinos we love sweets.
Philippe: Exactly. Eh nauuso yung what’s that thing during the pandemic? Yung coffee na.
Maps: Dalagona?
Philippe: Yeah. Like every few hours meron ako. Parang nandon, ah meron ulit. Everyone was working at home. Lumobo talaga ako, I was like, huh, anong nangyari? You know, and it was bad. It was really bad. So buti nalang nong medyo nag ease.
Maps: Yeah.
Philippe: Nag ease ng ano, ng lockdown. Pwede ka ng mag bike, pwede ka ng lumabas, yun. But no, I disagree ang daming tumaba.
Maps: Yeah.
Philippe: Sa pandemic, ang dami.
Maps: That’s true because yung mga clients ko that came to me tumaba sila because of the pandemic. Because what happened nong pandemic we were stuck in our homes. We can make food or eat food. So much deliveries happening and we were sedentary. So those are the reasons why a lot of people would gain weight talaga eh. Yung parang it’s so easy nowadays to just order food as well. So parang lack of movement, we’re just sitting. Kaya nga yung isa eh, movement is essential.
Philippe: It is. It is. We have to follow Japan’s footwork. Footsteps no? Footwork? Footsteps na parang.
Maps: Yeah. So we need more walkable places.
Philippe: The EDSA thing. Trust me, it works.
Maps: Push natin yan.
Philippe: Diba from Circle, from Quezon Circle, may way going to EDSA. I would walk that. It’s a loop. I’ll do that. Metro Manila loop. Yeah. Final words, Madame Secretary. What other Ano?
Maps: Final words. I just want to say, you know, take care of yourself because your health is your greatest investment. Again, health creates wealth because the healthier you are, the more that you’ll be able to unlock your best potential. You’ll be able to create more wealth not just in your finances but also in your personal life, your relationships, your family, and your purpose. So, yeah.
Philippe: And there we have it. So, Maps fitness Maps. I really love the name. It’s so catchy, diba.
Maps: Thank you.
Philippe: And then if you guys are interested with following Maps or following her regimen and her program, just follow what’s your IG handle?
Maps: @FitnessMaps_.
Philippe: Nice. All right.
