Philippe: I wanna talk about ways on how we could harness energy. We already know how to harness the sun, right? With solar panels. Fun fact, a single hurricane can release around roughly equal to 10,000 nuclear bombs.
Enough to power the entire world for a year. A hurricane is small compared to the storm that we experience here. Lahat ang nakikita natin is disasters, losses, and all that. Wala tayong gain. Dapat may benefit.
Mclaine: And every year, we have more than 20 typhoons.
Philippe: And most of the time, one to three of them are super typhoons. We should find a way to harness these types of energy. Let’s say you have a trillion dollars. We could use it to harness energy. How would you do it?
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Philippe:I wanna talk about ways on how we could harness energy. Anything that’s existing, technology. Let’s talk about here in Pinas and then in the world. In the rest of the world, how do you do it? So, one reason why this topic was inspired was because lately, ang dami natin storms.
So we have one storm after another and all this. It started with the earthquakes. But I think the biggest challenge right now is the storm with what happened with Cebu and what’s gonna happen to Metro Manila and Luzon itself. So, here’s what I want to do.
Philippe: I want to turn all these negatives into positives. I know ang daming nawala ng bahay, ang daming nabatay. But we need to figure this out on how we could benefit. Karoon ng beneficyo naman makaroon ng storms, right? We need to benefit on this.
Hindi lang lahat ng nakita natin is disasters, losses and all that. Wala tayong gain. So right now, I was always thinking because I watch a lot of sci-fi movies, I’m a big fan. Ang dami ko nakikita yung mga, you know, if you watch a sci-fi movie, usually mga space exploration, aliens and all that.
Philippe: Karamihan sa kanila is if you want to take over a planet, colonize a planet. Or if you need to source out minerals. Kadalasan mining eh. Have you watched the Alien franchise?
Mclaine: Not yet.
Philippe: Okay. The Alien franchise, it’s been out there since the 80s. Ang ganda. Now, the idea there is, of course, alien and then the humans, parang pinatay and all that. There is a company there within the movie called Wayland Enterprises.
Now, Wayland Enterprises is a mining company. What do they do? They go to outer space and they start mining for minerals. Metals, different types of metals. Kasi that’s business eh. Just like how they do mining in Cebu, mining in other provinces. We mine for gold.
Philippe: We mine for, what else do we mine for? Nickel. So many things we mine for them. Certain heavy metals. We do a lot of mining. Specifically mining for steel. Because first construction, so we mine a lot of that. So dun, in the Alien franchise, that particular company, Wayland Enterprises, is a mining company that sends a group of people to go out there to do mining. First, they’ll send explorers.
They need to explore certain planets. Kung meron niyo minerals and metals nandun, that would benefit the company. Kasi kung meron, they’ll send a team of miners to mine the whole planet, to get the resources. So why am I saying this? When it comes to storms, year by year, when it comes to calamity, so for example, we have El Nino, yung sobrang init. We have storm surges.
Philippe: Then we have floods. Let’s think of Pinas as a first world country who is very creative when it comes to these types of energy. When we say energy, kasi pag lumindol, energy yan. Na release ng energy. Pag bumaha, energy yan eh. The flow of water, diba gaano kabilis, that’s energy.
Storms, energy din yan. Winds. So let’s convert the negative to positive. How can we benefit from these energies? Ang number one dyan is harnessing. When we say harness, parang nagmamine ka eh. When you mine, may storage ka.
Philippe: Thinking outside the box, if… Let’s say we have, you know the funds na nakuraot ng ghost projects? Infrastructure funds. Imagine if someone strategizes, they create a plan for… So without the natural occurrences of storms and floods and rain and all that, let’s talk about the sea.
I remembered I saw a video about this company somewhere in Europe and also in Japan they do it. They have these floaters in the sea. And it generates electricity to help power their cities.
Mclaine: The waves.
Philippe: Yeah, the waves. And they did it in Europe, I think Switzerland or somewhere around that. So the waves alone is a recurring natural movement. Because of the waves, it comes inland, goes outside, it comes… And it’s unlimited.It keeps… I never saw a calm sea.
There’s always a certain wave. Unless it’s a lake. There’s no lake. That movement alone, it’s horizontal.And it goes up and down vertically. Then that alone helps in generating power. Power source. Tapos ibabank nila yung energy into batteries.
Philippe: Or they can directly connect it to the gen sets of the city and it could power the city.So that’s one type of technology that they should have thought of kasi we’re surrounded by water and there’s a real-life model as well. I saw another one in Japan.
They created a turbine also. Malaking turbine.Nilubog nila underwater. And because of the waves, the natural movement of waves, it never stops, naku-contribute them to power. So it’s just like the wind turbines, pero underwater. And smartly built.
Philippe: Kasi the turbine is like a airplane engine, di ba? Naka-enclosed. Hindi katulad ng wind turbines na medyo exposed siya. Parang ang daming reclamo about the environment, ang daming namamatay na birds, ang daming nasisira daw, nasusunog, ang daming namatay yung nagsisetup.
Mclaine: And yung sa mga turbines, it has parang speed limit.
Philippe: Isa pa yun.
Mclaine: So nag-auto-shutdown siya pag sobrang lakas na lang, sobrang bilis na lang.
Phillipe: So may limitations. And then yung installation, you need a windy area, which is fine, but you need a span of land and you need a lot of transportation. Alalaki kaya ng mga poles.
Mclaine: Sobra.
Philippe: And it’s too expensive. What about that technology, yung mukha siya ng airplane engine in large lang 10 times, ilulubog, it’s safer. Pero syempre there’s a lot of there’s a lot of environmentalists now, okay, wind turbines, yung noise, it’s very noisy, may noise pollution, the birds, deep sea, the fish, the environment, the corals, masisira, okay.
That one, yung on top of the on top of water, floating, I don’t think I don’t think the fish is gonna get bothered, right? Multiple of those. Imagine you have those and multiple of those and let’s say, lagay mo sa Pasay. Diba? That could help power the city. So that’s one type of technology. I saw this new one. It looked like it looked like a wind turbine without the turbine.
Mclaine: Vibrating pole.
Philippe: Vibrating. A vibrator.
Mclaine: Big vibrator.
Philippe: Pero, it’s as tall as two floors lang, easy to install, and I don’t know if it has a limit for the vibration, but even if there’s no wind, the simplest vibration, even you poke it, it will generate the energy required.
Mclaine: I think they already created the small one. I think parang mga nasa 10 feet lang. So meron na siyang gano’n as small as that. It generates power.
Philippe: I think that’s a type of that’s a type of energy they could generate for a small household. Another one is this is old. You know those rotating they look like it looks like a turbine, but it’s I’m not sure what country this was. Nilagay nila sa highway. Mga poles. So every time may tumadaan, umiikot siya.
Mclaine: Kasi meron siyang yung wind, di ba?
Philippe: So parang turbine, so parang siyang fan, so pag ganun yung way ng sasakyan, at papunta din dito, so it’s just rotating. And they also have that same technology na pwede mo ilagay para sa roof ng bahay mo. Parang siyang maliit na turbine, pero it’s into a cone. So kahit mahinang mahina yung wind, iikot siya ng mabilis
Mclaine: I think nakita ko yan parang nagcreate sila parang three na madami na yan.
Philippe: Yes.
Mclaine: So imagine if one could generate enough power to power something. Pag in-stack mo siya ng like a three, baka you could power more than two to three houses.
Philippe: Number one naman yan is about, with this topic is about the mining energy is probably, the generation of energy is probably easy. Storing it is also easy. But the thing is harnessing something as big as a storm, yan ang target natin.
We already know how to harness the sun, right? With solar panels. But it’s not as efficient. It’s way more efficient compared when it started, but it’s not as efficient yet because number one, solar panels are still big and lately I saw news about a sphere. Have you seen that in Japan? A sphere solar with solar materials. It looks like a ball so in any direction it is.
Mclaine: It’s generating power or gathering power.
Philippe: It’s harnessing the sun. I think more than ten times the efficiency of a regular flat solar panel. And it’s small and it could be installed anywhere compared to yung panel. It’s as big as this. Siguro two panels na to. Solar, right? Or I think just that.
One solar panel. Space consuming. Diba? You need to put it you need a specific type of space and dapat malawak. Yung sphere hindi sya totally bola. Edgy. May mga edgy. Parang golf ball pero instead of hollow medyo edgy lang. So ganyan kalaki imagine that something small can replace like a bunch of solar. Isa lang. Why can we have that technology? Imagine we had all that makano yung na scam sa atin?
Mclaine: Billions.
Phillipe: 30 billion?
Mclaine: More than? 100 billion? I guess
Philippe: Sige, 100 billion. Imagine if you put that technology we could save so much on electricity. We could store so much electricity and we can progress in the future. One thing that’s those are the doable ones, right? Unlimitation kasi dun sa float or sa sea.
Hanggang sea lang. The wind possibly in the metro kaya. Solar we’re already doing it. The one thing I thought about yung wind kasi sa highway kung walang kochi, kung madaling araw, kung konti ikot pa din. But the one thing that I think should be done highways.
Philippe: I’m not sure if this was in Germany but there’s a one of the European countries there’s a highway. The generous energy every time a car passes. So that’s one for highways. So very effective yan kasi for example although highways pag traffic I don’t think it works.
But there’s also one I think it’s in an Asian country I can’t remember which one. Sa mall and sa subway yung stairs pag bababa at naglalakad ng tao. Yung tiles every time you step on the tiles.
Mclaine: Baka Japan siguro yan. Mahilig sila sa ganyan eh.
Philippe: Alam ko yung stairs hindi Asian country, European country.Pero I’m not sure if it’s in Japan. Yung malls at yung walkway every time naglalakad ka.
Mclaine: Nag-generate kasi it’s just like the bloaters.
Philippe: Yung tiles medyo ano lang but it’s not unstable. Hindi mo alam na nag-generate siya kasi isang buo pero the slight movement lang kahit pusa it’s gonna trigger or mag-generate siya. Maliit but imagine sa dami naglalakad.
So madami they’re looking at the numbers. Imagine we had that in all the SM malls, all the Ayala malls. Gosh, let’s put it in Quiapo, Divisoria. Sa dami ng tao. Sa dami ng tao naglalakad, diba? Lagay mo lang sa 168, sa 999, sa Tutuban, dami naglalakad doon. It’s generating electricity, right? So here’s the question.
Philippe: That’s why we’re talking about this because of the storms. I’ve asked GPT about this. Currently, there’s no technology that could harness a storm. Fun fact, a single hurricane can release around, I don’t know if this is 10 to the 14th, I don’t know what, 10 to the 14th watts of energy. 10 to the 14th, so.
That’s a lot of, that’s 10, that’s 10 million, million, so what’s that? A billion, a hundred, a billion, trillion? I don’t know. Go, ano naman ka? Nakalagay, roughly equal to 10,000 nuclear bombs. Enough to overpower the entire world for a year if it could be harnessed.
Philippe: This is a hurricane. A hurricane is small compared to the storm that we experience here. Most storms are as big as the country, right? Right now, there’s no technology that could harness it.
Mclaine: Imagine sa US, nagkakategorify pa, diba?
Philippe: Imagine even a small storm, if that alone can be harnessed, it can store a lot of batteries to power the whole world. Sabihin natin at the whole world. Pinas. Imagine that. One storm. So, dapat ano yan eh. Kung may storm, we get ready kasi, you know, it could be a disaster, but there should be a, dapat may kickback din eh.
Diba? Kung may darating na disaster, dapat may kickback, diba? Dapat may benefit. So, for example, yan, may parating na storm, there should be something that harnesses. Maybe a wind turbine na, diba? Wind turbine kasi ganun siya. Vertical, umiikot. Alam mo yung…
Mclaine: Yung sa mga fan ng aircon.
Philippe: Yung umiikot na ganoon.
Mclaine: Parang roller type?
Philippe: Yes. Imagine if it’s a roller type. I’m just thinking, I’m not sure if this is, I’m not an expert, but technically speaking, logically speaking, if we have a large version of the rollers, and then naka ano siya sa mountains, parang ganito yung opening niya, or you could open it either way. Tapos, yung hangin papasok doon tapos umiikot siya.
Mclaine: I think the roller can be done. Siguro ang kailangan is they could create a special motor that could handle yung rotation, yung sobrang taas o lakas ng hangin. Kasi you could put two motors ng magkabila so that would actually regenerate.
Hindi lang isa, so dalawa. And you create multiple. Gaano kalakas yung kayang i-handle ng motor. Dapat yun yung pwedeng ganoon. Actually, pwede rin yung vertical. Ang kaganda sa vertical, pwedeng movable. Yung sinasabi mo kasi sa mountain, so that would be permanent.
Mclaine: Yung movable, pwede siyang lagi sa container. Pwede siyang two stack ng container. Pag in-open mo, andun na yung malaking turbine. So, isi-secure yung nila. So, kunwari, ang trajectory niya is going to, let’s say, Aurora Valera. So, dapat isi-set na kagad nila.
Makipag-coordinate na lang sila sa pag-asa kung ano ba na trajectory o facing forward ganito ba, facing east o facing west. And then, from there, ayun na, itatap na nila sa power grid. So, at least, tama yung sinasabi mo eh. We need to be passive or to think outside of the box. Kasi parang lagi na lang iniisip, ah, yun nga.
Philippe: Bagyo, relief, ayuda lahat. Disaster, patay lahat. Then we have to, dapat ba may kickback. Yan lang dapat may kickback tayo. Hindi sa perang tao bayan. Pero, dapat may kickback tayo sa mga natural occurrences nangyayari year by year. Kasi, every year naman, meron tayong storm surge. Every year, meron tayong, hindi naman.
Mclaine: And every year, we have more than 20 typhoons na dumadaan. So, expected na, diba?
Philippe: And most of the time, one to three of them are super typhoons. Category, ano ba to category 5?
Mclaine: Oo aabot daw ng signal number 5 eh
Philippe: So, we should find a way to harness these types of energy. Sayang eh. Diba? Just like the sun. Kung hindi lang, although dumadami naman with solar panels, you know, it’s not as fast. Solar panels has been out there for more than a decade na.
Actually, even maybe two decades. But people don’t want to still use it. But, good thing, maybe it’s because of the demand, kaya mahal pa din.
Mclaine: Before, it was so, parang sobrang mahal. Parang sinilaki nung table, sabihin na natin, size of a window, before that was parang 5,000 or more. Ah, more than 10 to 20,000 each.
Philippe: new technology sya. But right now, it’s a good thing we’re moving forward, but not as fast. But imagine, if only it was cheap enough, diba? If only it was cheap enough, everyone would be using it. Okay, mawawala ng business si Miralco, but, if I was the power company, diba?
The one generating electricity from coal, dapat, ano na ako? Dapat mag-shift na ako because everyone knows coal is running out, gasoline is getting more expensive. Dapat meron ng solar generation, diba? They should have, UAE’s doing a great job with their um, imagine, because they’re in the desert.
Philippe: They found the technology to make the solar panels work even at night. And then they found, they made a technology that they could convert seawater into drinking water. Imagine that. They’re spending their billions in research and development, so they could use whatever resources that’s available to them. Imagine seawater, salty seawater. Maalat yun. It’s not, hindi sya drinkable. Hindi sya drinkable.
Mclaine: Straight out of the, ano?
Philippe: Straight out of the, ano? You can, but they made it, they have a technology where they could filter out, they could do stuff, they could make the magic happen and then you could drink it. Because they’re in the desert. They need to, they need to invest into resources for their citizens, right?
How can we harness, some movies nga, they could harness the sun, right? They could mine for planets. Why can’t we do it in real life? Hello? AI used to be just in the movies and now it’s in real life. We’re using it. Hello? Harnessing the sun is not possible. Pocha?
Phillipe: Imagine what we could do with a hundred billion pesos, right? With research and development and we could use it to harness energy. Imagine that, right? Everyone would be happy. Free electricity. We’d buy more electric cars.
Although dumadami sila in fairness, I mean. Imagine that. Yung kuryente na binabayaran ng lahat ng mga companies, yung mga bahay, wala na. I wouldn’t say wala na. Dapat may distribution charge pa din. Kasi, it’s not like all the houses.
Philippe: So for example, dito, if you want to put solar panels, hindi kaya for a building. Walang space eh. I remember, naalala ko to, I don’t know what happened. They probably bought him out. They probably patented the technology.
But there was a Filipino who invented a tint with solar panel materials. Tint ng bintana. Imagine, lalagay, papalitan mo na. Titint mo lang yung bintana ng isang high rise. You’re generating a lot of energy.
Mclaine: Ilan ang building natin dito sa Pilipinas? Not just building, kahit ordinary homes. Homes, yes. Before I was thinking, if I have the money, lahat ng mga nakikita kong malalaking bubong, kabitan ko ng solar panel. Instead na nakatiwangwang yung malalaking bubong nila, kabitan nila, pasok nila sa grid. Sabihin na lang natin, 10% na lang kikitahin mo.
Philippe: Still, forever na yun.
Mclaine: Maintenance, bahala na mag maintenance kung sino yung kakabitan mo.
Philippe: Look, I think yung mga maliliit na ano, I think kaya kung kaya. Kung pipilitan nila, kaya niya na. But the one thing that’s so obvious is that we have renewable energy sources.
We have the sun in summer, we have rainfall. I’m sure you saw yung rain, yung turbine, nakabaon sa parang nakaset sa tabi ng hydro, ano?
Mclaine: Para hydroelectric power generating, katabi ng nasa gilid sa river, tapos dadaan yung tubig, nag-degenerate.
Philippe: Imagine if our flood control system was like that in the city. Diba? Kasi, you could see from Marikina River to Pasig, right? Grabe, sa mga creek nga, ang binis. Continuous, ang lakas pa ng current, diba? Why not just put a generator there? It powers the whole, ano, the LGU, the barangay.
Mclaine: Yes.
Philippe: Why can’t we do that?
Mclaine: Lagay mo sa straight light na lang, i-distribute mo na sa straight light, continuous siya.
Philippe: Diba? We have to make use of the rainfall, the heavy rainfall, we have to create those. Okay, if we have the flood control systems in place, properly built, yun una maaano? Kasi, they could build those generators sa gilid. Yes. Diba? Easy peasy.
Mclaine: Ia-add on mo na lang siya sa gilid.
Philippe: Exactly, add on. Doon sila kumuha ng pera. Why not? They get the money from there. How do they get the money, right? They give it, they sell it to Miralco, they tell Meralco, babaan nyo, kasi it’s already renewable. Lagi naman meron.
Everyone pays like only a fraction of what they’re paying dun sa Meralco bill. Everyone’s happy, and Meralco earns, the government earns. Get it from there. Why get it from our taxes? Right? Simple as that. But of course, they want easy money, quick money. This is not easy money. Let’s go back to the, let’s go back to the topic of harnessing. Let’s say you have a trillion dollars.
Philippe: Let’s say, hypothetically, thinking that we’re not experts, we’re not smart, but let’s say I’ll give you the permission to dream, to be ambitious. You have a trillion dollars. But you have to find a solution to harness a storm. How would you do it?
Mclaine: Oh, dito na tayo sa Pacific. Kasi laging, laging dito nang gagaling yung malakas eh. Okay. Yung galing dito sa east, west side is hindi naman, hindi naman ganun. Most of the, yung malalaking typhoon talaga, sa Pacific Ocean nanggagaling.
You either create, hindi naman siya wall, pero, parallel to the archipelago, yung Philippines natin, from Luzon to Mindanao. Ganun nga, it’s not, pwede siyang turbine, pwedeng wind, pwedeng water, pwedeng at the same time, pareho, or, tatlo siya. Wind, sa waves, and then yung underground.
Philippe: Kasi when there’s a storm, the water’s…
Mclaine: Sa Pacific, continue siya eh.
Philippe: Continuous naman, even without storm.
Mclaine: And then yung, floating devices, na paddling. I’m not sure kung, I think meron dito sa Ilocos Norte. I think nagpagawa to si Marcos before. I think nung governor siya. Nakita ko to sa isang post niya eh. Hindi siya ganun kalaki, pero nasa gilid lang siya. Yung mga floating…
Philippe: Really?
Mclaine: Yes. Not 100%, pero, napanood ko na to before. Nung tina tackle niya yung solar farm dun sa Ilocos. Nag-create din daw siya noon. Kasi nga, napansin niya na continuous ang waves
Philippe: Is this Marcos Sr.?
Mclaine: Junior.
Philippe: Okay.
Mclaine: Nung governor sa Ilocos.
Philippe: I wonder kung existing pa siya.
Mclaine: I’m not sure. Pero tinignan ko kanina, hindi lumalabas yung project niya. Pero napanood ko na to before. So, ang tanong lang is, if this is actually nagde-generate or nag-harness, bakit hindi ginawa sa kabuhaang shoreline ng Pilipinas?
Kasi diba, if it generates, sabihin na lang natin, 1 megawatt or 500 watts, sabihin na natin, 1 megawatt na lang, in every barangay or every municipality around the Philippines, shorelines, yun na i-lagay nila, hindi nagde-generate siya ng enough power, kahit sa barangays lang, malibre.
Mclaine: Yun lang, isang barangay lang malibre ng power cost coming from the grid, it would actually help people dun sa barangay na. Wala na silang babayaran na, kasi, necessity na yung kuryente, hindi pwedeng mawala sa buhay ng tao yan.
Philippe: You still have a trillion dollars, so how would you build it? What are you gonna build?
Mclaine: Yun nga, yung sinasabi ko na wall. So, wind turbine, this is gonna be a floating system. Wind, waves, current.
Philippe: Current na yun.
Mclaine: O, so tatlo na yun, at same time. Pwede mo na siyang samahan, kasi hindi mo pwede ilagay ang solar panel dun sa Pacific Ocean, kasi the waves actually parang hundreds of feet, ganun ka’t hindi. Yun lang ang magiging problem niya, kung paano siya magiging stable. I know yung sa ibang bansa, yung oil rig nila.
Philippe: Yeah, that couldn work.
Mclaine: Yun, pwedeng ganun style ang gawin. Oil rig, pero since nasa atin kasi yung deepest part of the sea, Marianas Trench. Kaya, we need a lot of steel beams. Yes, pero nasa atin din yung ano. One more thing, if you’re familiar with deuterium. With? Deuterium.
This is a hydrogen gas burned on the deepest yun sa Marianas Trench. Ito yung nabalita before. Now, if this hydrogen gas is being harnessed, it could actually gain profit to the Philippines. Pero sobrang mahal yung system para i-harness yung kailangan ng cooperation ng buong mundo.
Mclaine: Well, the project kasi talagang trillions of dollars. Pero I’m not sure. Hindi naman ako skeptic na hindi kayang pondoan yan. The question is, sinong mamamahala? Dapat ang Pilipinas kasi nga sa atin. Nasa Philippine Area of Responsibility.
Pero syempre, hindi papayag yung mga mag-i-invest na hindi sila makahawak doon sa project na yan. If I have a trillion or unlimited amount of money, if hindi feasible yung sinabi ko kanina na suggest na gather the hydrogen gas that is buried doon sa deepest, sa Mariana Trench, I’m not sure kung Mariana Trench.
Philippe: Maybe it’s somewhere along there. Pero I think if they could mine that, imagine meron treasure pala malapit.
Mclaine: Yes. Nabroadcast na ito. Yung ninong ko, gumawa na siya ng feasibility study.Nabasa ko yung some of the parts of feasibility study. One engineer, possible daw na kaya siyang bayaran ng $10 million ang salary niya
Philippe: What’s this, monthly?
Mclaine: Yes. Ganun kalaki yung income na magigenerate nito. Imagine, babayaran ka ng $10 million per engineer. I’m not sure bakit hindi nag-progress doon. Mag one decade na yata ito.
Philippe: Well, since nabanggit mo yung ganyan. So this one medyo far-fetched pa. We have an existing nuclear, a potential existing nuclear power, what do you call that? Power source? Power station? Power generator. Na hindi naman, nandyan na eh. The technology is there. It’s outdated but still works. Bataan. Saan ba yun? Bataan?
Mclaine: Bataan.Yes.
Philippe: It’s ready na siya, di ba? Or it just needs refresh?
Mclaine: Ang nabalitaan ko, ano na siya?
Phillipe: Na-retrofit siya. I think it was already built.Why are we not using it?
Mclaine: Marami pa rin nga nagpo-protest na yung takot nila, yung magiging effect. Kasi nga since the word nuclear. So alam mo naman, masyado na tayong na-blinded ng movies.Once narinig mo ang nuclear, radiation agad.
Philippe: And explosion.
Mclaine: Pero may, ano to ah, I think this is a replicate or the Bataan Nuclear Power Plant is the same replicate na meron sa Germany. Germany nga ba to? Meron na nang cover na binalita na to eh. Pinapakita nila, kung ito ay hindi fitted sa Pilipinas, bakit nag-ooperate yung the same plant that was built here in the Philippines doon sa ibang bansa.
The same na the same daw yun. It’s a replicate ng system na ginagamit. Nag-ooperate yun doon. Merong fishpond sa gilid. May mga fish, may mga namiminguit. Pero yung dito sa atin, is ah, hindi, not nagtuloy. Wala kasing kickback. And isa pa is, it’s because Marcos built it.
Mclaine: So ayaw nila ng credit to the person who initiated the nuclear power plant. So meron pa rin talagang politikal. So, on tendency, since retrofit na ito, pag inactivate natin ito, it’s gotta be credit.
Philippe: It’s a Marcos. To Marcos pala.
Mclaine: Kahit sabihin na natin, oh pinundoan ito ni, let’s say, kung sino mang naupo na president. Either Arroyo, Erap, or let’s say, Noy-Noy. Once na-activate muli dyan, oh it’s going Marcos. So marami pa rin ang ayaw.
Philippe: So it’s all about politics.
Mclaine: So even if you have a trillion or unlimited source of fund, pag yung pangalan mo ay somehow connected sa hindi nila gusto, yun ang nagiging tendency ng Pilipinas. Hindi siya magpo-progress. So kahit gaano ka ganda yung plano mo para sa Pilipinas, pag hindi nila gusto, oligarchs.
Philippe: That’s why we’re not progressing yan ang problem. If they can’t set aside their political agendas, wala talaga. So, mag-reveal ka ng oil rig that could create a wall of turbines.
Mclaine: Turbines, yes.
Philippe: That works. Unlimited money could work. How would I do it? Siguro I’ll go a little sci-fi lang. Kasi with the movies I watch, imagine they could harness the energy of a… Imagine a sun. Nag-rebuild sila. Can’t seem to remember what they call this.
Mclaine: Using yung mga satellites, they gather the energy and then they focus it.
Philippe: I can’t remember what they called it in that sci-fi. It’s fictional. But, they build a structure. I know there’s a term for this structure. Kasi, They build a structure around the sun and then, so hindi lang, syempre it’s a sci-fi movie, it’s not only solar, but they harness number one the heat, the light, and then materials of that star. It’s not a sun, they’re harnessing a star.
So you know how a star is full of energy, if a hurricane is like 10,000 nuclear bombs, a star is probably a trillion more and even multiply that another trillion. But anyway, they build a sphere, it’s like a frame, then that star or that sun is in the middle.
Philippe: And it’s just sucking out the flames, the light, the energy and everything. And then from that energy, they’re able to use it to build stuff, they could build colonies, space colonies, this is fictional, I’m talking fictional.I wonder if we could build, it doesn’t really need to enclose a storm, but it should be able to, you know how a vacuum, let’s say madumi, there’s a lot of sand, you know how a vacuum is?
When you vacuum it, the more you vacuum the dirt, the more it gets cleaner, right?We should find a way where we could vacuum a storm para mawala yung wind power niya at ma-neutralize, right? I don’t know, we could create a big vacuum para pag pumasok, sisip-sip, sisip-sipin niya. Pag sip-sip niya, yung mga turbines, yung motors umiikot, nag-generate ng power electricity, in-store natin yung power na yun in batteries, right?
Philippe: And then we could use those batteries to power the city, or power whatever project we have, if we’re a first world. We need that. So imagine if there’s a storm, and then we have a big-as vacuum, pang may storm, hihigupin niya. Or let’s the storm passes, and then it will neutralize the storm, no more disasters, and then we gain something.
But no, I think that’s far-fetched, it’s fictional. If I had unlimited money, even if it’s a trillion dollar, it’s far-fetched pa din, kasi it’s too big, it’s too impossible, but these days with money, nothing is impossible. What we thought was impossible with AI in the movies, is now possible because we’re using AI. And I’m sure AI can come up with solutions like this. Right, GPT?
Philippe: Anyway, it’s a good thing, it’s really good to talk about, I think we need to invite experts for this, talk about renewable energy, talk about harnessing, mining, anything that could help us evolve, not necessarily for the humans, but specifically for us Pinoys and for the Philippines, kasi we have so many islands where galing ko nalulubog na ang Pinas, kasi we’re surrounded by water, but we’re also surrounded by a lot of energy.
And we need that energy from the storms, energy from the waves, energy from, or minerals, or materials from the Mariana Trench, or whatever trench. If we could harness all of that, not only that we could be first world, but we could be, we could help.
Mclaine: Game changer.
Philippe: Game changer for the globe.You never know, if we have enough energy, free energy, renewable, we could start going interplanetary. Right? Yan lang, sana, umabot tayo sa point na yan. But with all the political agendas of each political side that we have, mahina ang 10 years dito.
Mclaine: Or more.
Philippe: In 10 years, nothing is going to happen. Nobody’s going to do something that’s a sad case about. Unless, we can gather all the experts, talk about it. Kasi with exposing it, talking about it. Maybe one of these days, a millennial politician or a Gen Z politician will say,
Yeah, we should harness a storm, we should harness the sun better, we should harness the floods better, the water. Meralco has the power. The electric companies, generators have the power. I’m sure they already thought about it, but they’re not sharing it.
Mclaine: And they don’t like it.
Philippe: They’re not going to profit from it.
Mclaine: Yes. Kalaban nila yan. Magiging kalaban.
Philippe: Wala silang profit. But we’re willing to pay lower fees. Or we’re still willing to pay.
Mclaine: Possibly pag meralco binalik sa gobyerno. It might. But until such time na hawak ito ng mga…
Philippe: Sabihin natin babalik sa gobyerno. You think? Bihira tayo makaroon ng scandal?
Mclaine: Maybe. Kasi for how many decades hawak na ito ng private sector. Walang nangyari at wala talaga silang plano pababayan, kundi keep on increasing yung charges.Pero pag nasa gobyerno, we just need to wait if there is a leader that would stand.
Philippe: Which is never from where we are right now.
Mclaine: Yes. Pero kasi what I’m saying is, for how many decades this private sector is not really helping the Filipino people or yung bansa natin to progress. In terms of kung hindi nila kayang ibigay ng libre. Kasi Senator Marcoleta is actually suggesting that anything below 200 kilowatts of power usage, it’s gonna be free.
Philippe: It has to be.
Mclaine: So anything 200 below, libre. Alam ko, hindi off topic to pero this is actually medyo related naman sa generating ng ano natin. Instead of giving it to Ayuda, sabi ni Marcoleta, is i-convert na lang. And this would actually makakasigurado.
Philippe: Mas mababa pa.
Mclaine: Hindi. Everyone would benefit from it. Hindi na po pwede yung wala ka sa listahan. Hindi. Anyone, kahit yung mayaman, kung generating cost mo lang with it naman is less than 200 kilowatts, libre.
Philippe: Because the budget is cheaper than giving Ayuda pa.
Mclaine: Kasi if I’m giving Ayuda, alam mo na kung sino lang nasa listahan yun lang. At yung mga nasa listahan is sila lang. Sila sila lang din. Kaya ayun, off topic na pero if that would work, makatulong sa…
Philippe: I think it could. They have to look at the big picture lang. Right now, I think it’s evolving. I think the private companies are gonna benefit, are gonna give a lot of benefits to the people. Give you a one example. San Miguel. NIA, Terminal 1, or NIA in general, was being handled by the government for how many decades?
And it’s only now that San Miguel and Ramon Ang is doing something to improve it. Right? They needed a private company to take over. Right? What did the government do for the past few decades in our airport? Nothing. Okay, Terminal 3 was a great thing but after…
Philippe: Hindi na-maintain ang Terminal 3. It’s still nicer than the other terminals pero hindi na-maintain. Kasi if you go prior to San Miguel taking over, if you go there, ngayari ito bubulok na. Dati parang bagong-bago. But right now, there is OFW lounge. Libre lahat. Pagkain, pag-OFW ka, pwede ka kumain. Libre lahat. Walang discrimination. OFW, you deserve to have a lounge. Only Ramon Ang was able to do that.
Mclaine: Pero that was, hindi ito because of, but that actually done during, on which President, I think that’s under Duterte.
Philippe: No. It was recent.
Mclaine: Recent ba?
Philippe: Itong recent. I was following. Itong taon. Itong taon. It was this year na may OFW lounge pero hindi libre. Pina-libre niya lahat. Ramon Ang. Because of his innovation, right?
He wants to see a first world Philippines. Kaya, he took over the operations of NIA. And now, I think they’re improving NIA. Di ba nag-renovate sila? Inaayos nila yung sistema. Yung parking, inaayos nila. Tinanggal nila yung mga nakatambag na poche.
Philippe: Yung parking fees, inaayos nila and everything. We’re improving. And he took a private company. They needed to take over just to improve it. Because apparently, they have more funds, di ba, and they have better management system than the government. Wala namang pa-power trip.
Mclaine: Oo, yun ang maganda. Pag merong great mind with great budget.
Philippe: Kasi siya, mayaman na siya. He doesn’t, we just need to improve our airport para more investor will come. Imagine may gusto mag-invest, let’s say, ng hundred billion. Darating sa airport. Ba’t ganito? You go to Singapore and you’re like, wow.
You come back to Pinas and you’re like, shit. Oo. You know when you came back from Singapore? Parang, ay, nalungkot ako para sa Pinas. Sobrang nalungkot ako. I was sabi, you already know na nasa Pinas ka once you see the airport. Kawawa.
Philippe: But this was before Ramon Ang took over. But sana ano. I think that covers it. I’ll build a big vacuum. With a trillion dollars. Alright.
